Kendrick: "No matter what his color is, hip hop is hip hop and Eminem is one of the greatest"

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One has nothing to do with the other. Yes, mainstream rap is poison to our youth but i do recognizdm the talent it takes to put together a well structured verse regardless of the content
nikka werent you just saying in another thread that rap music spread a terrible message. how in the fukk can you give eminem any kind of props. lol you gotta be kidding me.
 

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It's not true because every artist isn't pushed by a machine. Particularly that machine. There's plenty of underground artists that aren't. Countless. No-one said it did, not saying Kendrick is the sole person pushed ever in the history of music lol.

I meant safe in terms of subject matter mainly, he's an acceptable face/figure to a lot of people. Not rebelliousness enough for me. Or Hip Hop enough. It's sprinkled little things in his music or in interviews that sound suspect. Some people call him Koondrick for a reason. It feels like he was there to try and reinvent shyt and take certain elements away while being propped into a position he didn't deserve, it all felt like marketing to me. It felt gimmicky and unreal. And the hype train went into super overdrive to try and manipulate, which it did on many.

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We ain't even talking about the same thing. I said mainstream/major artists. Kendrick didn't receive any more/less of a push than anyone else that's been "that guy" in the history of hip-hop.

People don't call him Koondrick....people on the internet call him Koondrick. People on the internet also been parroting "Nas Lost" for the better part of 15 years and talk about Jay-Z, who is worth close to half a bill and married to Beyonce, is a camel. Basically you can't take what you see on the internet and say "this is how people feel". People, for the most part, are on some bullshyt on the internet, because they can be.

As far as the rest of your post....that's your opinion but honestly your line of reasoning makes zero sense to me. Again, he dropped a concept album....songs about loss, struggling to fit in, people around him dying, verses about police brutality and peer pressure concerning drugs and gangs....and you're like "nah son, it's not edgy or hip-hop". shyt is :what: as hell. In the mainstream that was arguably the most hip-hop album that came out that year....in terms of composition, content and actually having a message.

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We ain't even talking about the same thing. I said mainstream/major artists. Kendrick didn't receive any more/less of a push than anyone else that's been "that guy" in the history of hip-hop.

People don't call him Koondrick....people on the internet call him Koondrick. People on the internet also been parroting "Nas Lost" for the better part of 15 years and talk about Jay-Z, who is worth close to half a bill and married to Beyonce, is a camel. Basically you can't take what you see on the internet and say "this is how people feel". People, for the most part, are on some bullshyt on the internet, because they can be.

As far as the rest of your post....that's your opinion but honestly your line of reasoning makes zero sense to me. Again, he dropped a concept album....songs about loss, struggling to fit in, people around him dying, verses about police brutality and peer pressure concerning drugs and gangs....and you're like "nah son, it's not edgy or hip-hop". shyt is :what: as hell. In the mainstream that was arguably the most hip-hop album that came out that year....in terms of composition, content and actually having a message.

Fred.

Ok, well I didn't lol. I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Anyway not everyone was from that machine, I'm not saying most people didn't have a marketing or promotion team behind them, I'm saying the entity it's coming out of is corrupt and filthy. And a large amount of that music is corrupt, manufactured and not pure. The hype machine behind Kendrick was a bit sickening lol, industry bullshyt that was cringeworthy. When some said their true feelings they got a backlash lol. Why, cause that's the golden boy at the moment they have deemed they wanna push.

Ok in regards to the actual name then maybe, but I have heard people say he's a c00nish character, even Papoose called him out about the feminine shyt (not saying I endorse that about him specifically but it's what was said). I'm not saying everyone feels the same at all, like I said, I have a few friends that like his shyt. But I also know many who don't fukk with him at all and feel like how I said.

The mainstream is largely garbage so I don't judge artists by those standards. But Nas and Damien Marley dropped to me a significantly better project but it wasn't pushed down people's throats like that was. Look, if you like Kendrick you like Kendrick lol, I'm not trying to change your opinion, merely stating mine. I don't even hate him, but to say I'm fan or really feeling him would be a lie. But like I said I'm judging Hip Hop as a whole, not just the mainstream, there's a reason he came through the mainstream through the entity he did.
 

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...he's called Tech9 :ufdup:
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Or Pharoahe Monch, or Mos Def, or Twista, or Canibus, etc. etc.


And let's not act like Royce da 5'9" hasn't BEEN eating Eminem's lunch.
This is coming from someone who thinks Eminem is without a doubt one
of the greats.
 
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I wholeheartedly disagree, cuz Treach was spittin like that way before "they" crowned Em:ehh:
 

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Straight out the fukkin' dungeons of rap
It's not true because every artist isn't pushed by a machine. Particularly that machine. There's plenty of underground artists that aren't. Countless. No-one said it did, not saying Kendrick is the sole person pushed ever in the history of music lol.

I meant safe in terms of subject matter mainly, he's an acceptable face/figure to a lot of people. Not rebelliousness enough for me. Or Hip Hop enough. It's sprinkled little things in his music or in interviews that sound suspect. Some people call him Koondrick for a reason. It feels like he was there to try and reinvent shyt and take certain elements away while being propped into a position he didn't deserve, it all felt like marketing to me. It felt gimmicky and unreal. And the hype train went into super overdrive to try and manipulate, which it did on many.


bruh just say you find him boring, we understand


cause shyt dont make no sense if you try to say he makes "safe" music when it's obvious he doesnt
 

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bruh just say you find him boring, we understand


cause shyt dont make no sense if you try to say he makes "safe" music when it's obvious he doesnt

It does make sense. Your missing the point, probably because you want to miss it lol. If you like Kendrick cool, but I'm entitled to my opinion and view too. What I said is how I feel and how some others feel too.
 

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You c00ns just waiting for a nikka to give Cacinem props :scust:


You knee grows forget the power Cacinem has at the label Kendrick is signed to, he knows who's ass to kiss
 
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