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Breh be getting so mad :mjlol:

He needs to start conserving his energy on some of these calls for his health. I get the matching energy but sometimes callers will be laid back, even if misguided, and he'll get so high strung. Dude is already in his 50's smashing Red Bulls on the regular.
 

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Petty Vandross.. fukk Yall
Yeah, his logic is sound from a dollars and cents standpoint but I just can't wrap my mind around paying for the yoni, brehs
If we really being real
A lot of men are not getting laid out here
No matter how much game they learn
How many videos they watch for encouragement
Taking classes on approaching/PUA
From socially awkward to Fortune 500 Company CEOs
It’s men out here that will never enjoy a real connection with a woman
Or even the thrill of getting a number, courting, etc
I see no problem in paying for it
Been there, Done that
From paying strippers in private rooms
To going to them “massage parlors”
People tend to forget how hard it was
Once you start winning/gaining experience with women
Self esteem/confidence doesn’t come easy for some folks
Especially men and if they are not
Handsome gang
Trust fund baby
Prostitution been around since forever
But we out here shaming men for getting a service that’s hard for some naturally
And women who provide a service in a discreet package (I’m not talking about bytches selling p*ssy on IG/Twitter. Those hoes are hustlers/gypsys/scammers)
Then we wonder why some of these men out here shooting shyt up with no remorse
Granted, the same could be said why some men out here shooting shyt up because they got hurt too late in the game as well
Or taken advantage of
Or just plain 5150
To Kevin’s point/crux of his argument
Some men just don’t have the luxury and skill to deal with women
So why not just pay for a service
Instead of trying to game a chick
Pay for a date
Then get her home and a possible chance of a 50/50 split on her having
Great sex skills
Trash p*ssy
Why not pay for a high end escort that has a great reputation by word of mouth
She knows how to break you off
You get your pleasure
She gets her paper
And carry yo ass home:yeshrug:
But he is conflating “It ain’t tricking”
With straight out prostitution
Tricking refers more to spending on a woman lavishly without seeking anything from her
Flexing with dollars
Vs
Just buying p*ssy out right without effort or headaches
 

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My main said; lions don't like easy kills.

:dead: :dead:

Stopp with the Bro-Science, bruhs.

Ya'll really think post-divorce Dr. Dre bought to be courting? :russ:

If we really being real
A lot of men are not getting laid out here
No matter how much game they learn
How many videos they watch for encouragement
Taking classes on approaching/PUA
From socially awkward to Fortune 500 Company CEOs
It’s men out here that will never enjoy a real connection with a woman

Or even the thrill of getting a number, courting, etc
I see no problem in paying for it
Been there, Done that
From paying strippers in private rooms
To going to them “massage parlors”
People tend to forget how hard it was
Once you start winning/gaining experience with women
Self esteem/confidence doesn’t come easy for some folks
Especially men and if they are not
Handsome gang
Trust fund baby
Prostitution been around since forever
But we out here shaming men for getting a service that’s hard for some naturally
And women who provide a service in a discreet package (I’m not talking about bytches selling p*ssy on IG/Twitter. Those hoes are hustlers/gypsys/scammers)
Then we wonder why some of these men out here shooting shyt up with no remorse
Granted, the same could be said why some men out here shooting shyt up because they got hurt too late in the game as well
Or taken advantage of
Or just plain 5150
To Kevin’s point/crux of his argument
Some men just don’t have the luxury and skill to deal with women
So why not just pay for a service
Instead of trying to game a chick
Pay for a date
Then get her home and a possible chance of a 50/50 split on her having
Great sex skills
Trash p*ssy
Why not pay for a high end escort that has a great reputation by word of mouth
She knows how to break you off
You get your pleasure
She gets her paper
And carry yo ass home:yeshrug:
But he is conflating “It ain’t tricking”
With straight out prostitution
Tricking refers more to spending on a woman lavishly without seeking anything from her
Flexing with dollars
Vs
Just buying p*ssy out right without effort or headaches

That's where' the capping comes in. None of the men on this show, tonight got 25 bodies...maybe even combined. The average American got 8 bodies IN A LIFE TIME.

Most of those dudes paying for PUA course need to just get a haircut, some clothes that fit and find a local woman and just drop a mini bag for a month of dates or something.

Ya'll think men and women are "connecting" on dates? Most these girls are just hungry and like the attention :mjglad:

I get KS overall point; at a certain level, date are not worth the time AND money if you simply looking for sex. And if a woman happens to be wifey material, you're paying, but, not paying for a pro', your dropping money to get her full attention in that "six months."

Again, I'm not suggesting we all cancel our club plans, tomorrow and goes on eros.com :mjlol:

But, it's a good thought exercise.
 
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I’ve travelled to about 45 counties now, and literally the only people collectively that have a problem with “sex work” are Americans,

The rest of the world knows what’s up. Hell, most of Europe has legalized prostitution or brothels (nice ones at that).

That’s why stuff like Only Fans is mainly for Americans. Overseas dudes will just pay to smash, not pay to view content lol
 

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Breh be getting so mad :mjlol:

He needs to start conserving his energy on some of these calls for his health. I get the matching energy but sometimes callers will be laid back, even if misguided, and he'll get so high strung. Dude is already in his 50's smashing Red Bulls on the regular.
I figure it's cause he's already looking at them on camera. He already has an opinion and he's holding himself back, then they start talking BS and it's too much.
 

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One thing that people get wrong is that bm being the only people who don’t want to pay for sex. Cacs are the ones who created this pickup artist, red pill, blue pill, etc. stuff.

These cacs and other non bm don’t wanna pay for chicks either, that’s why there are all of these crazy incels in the world who make money and still can’t get chicks. They don’t want to pay because to them it doesn’t count and they know it’ll be something they have to do. Most would rather get women with game.

Can’t wife up an escort, you have to have game to pick the right woman.

It’s hard to make a real argument with KS because he says to do both, so even he agrees game is needed. You can’t bag chicks without practice, which requires time spent talking to women.

Then he says to only mess with women that charge $300 n up an hour. So basically he’s saying if you’re not making money that you can throw away, then use game.

Basically the majority should use game then.
 

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It’s quite normal in other parts of the world to pay for sex. It’s whatever towards me.
If you’re on vacation and want to drop some cash to get laid for that night why is that an issue?
 

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It ain't trickin' if she's worth it, and her worth is not based on her looks. it's based on how she treats you. So If I have a bad bytch, and she's treating me right, giving me p*ssy without me having to directly pay for it, then I'll do nice things for her at my discretion.
 
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If we really being real
A lot of men are not getting laid out here
No matter how much game they learn

How many videos they watch for encouragement
Taking classes on approaching/PUA
From socially awkward to Fortune 500 Company CEOs
It’s men out here that will never enjoy a real connection with a woman
Or even the thrill of getting a number, courting, etc
I see no problem in paying for it
Been there, Done that
From paying strippers in private rooms
To going to them “massage parlors”
People tend to forget how hard it was
Once you start winning/gaining experience with women
Self esteem/confidence doesn’t come easy for some folks
Especially men and if they are not
Handsome gang
Trust fund baby
Prostitution been around since forever
But we out here shaming men for getting a service that’s hard for some naturally
And women who provide a service in a discreet package (I’m not talking about bytches selling p*ssy on IG/Twitter. Those hoes are hustlers/gypsys/scammers)
Then we wonder why some of these men out here shooting shyt up with no remorse
Granted, the same could be said why some men out here shooting shyt up because they got hurt too late in the game as well
Or taken advantage of
Or just plain 5150
To Kevin’s point/crux of his argument
Some men just don’t have the luxury and skill to deal with women
So why not just pay for a service
Instead of trying to game a chick
Pay for a date
Then get her home and a possible chance of a 50/50 split on her having
Great sex skills
Trash p*ssy
Why not pay for a high end escort that has a great reputation by word of mouth
She knows how to break you off
You get your pleasure
She gets her paper
And carry yo ass home:yeshrug:
But he is conflating “It ain’t tricking”
With straight out prostitution
Tricking refers more to spending on a woman lavishly without seeking anything from her
Flexing with dollars
Vs
Just buying p*ssy out right without effort or headaches
Tis' true, alot of guys are in a bad spot. My only gripe is with him saying "Only broke men have a problem with paying for sex." I never had to pay for sex a day in my life, and I don't plan on it because it's a free commodity for me. Plus, I make great money, so he kinda lost me with that lol Maybe it's just my perspective

 

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The first guy brought this up before Kevin cut him off, but an escort is just sex. Most folks value more; a bond. Sex is nice, but a home-cooked meal, cuddles, confiding in someone, sharing your success, etc. For some guys, the investment in a relationship is priceless. If you find an amazing partner, it should be a mutual investment.

Someone in the chat explained it best: An escort doesn't have a good return on investment. A good partner does.
If you read my thread, I am VERY cheap. I live WELL below my means (50% of my income). I make my lunch, I cook, drive a 2000's car, don't own J's and travel EVERY weekend. When it comes to what I use my money for, unless it makes me more money, I tend to rent it. Women included. #GMB
As a older man...it's REALLY not worth it.
 

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The argument of “don’t use it’s not legal” argument is so flawed. Most people do not do illegal activities

besides Nevada I’m pretty sure it’s not legal in the US. No one is trying to catch a charge and be in the newspaper for hiring a hooker/escort. Especially when a lot of that stuff is “if you know you know” business.

We do not live in Latin America nor Netherlands. If the information to do it safely here without beingarrested/set up was better; or if the process was more cut and dry, I and many others would have less push back.

(let me state I have never paid)
 
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