Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

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Tinder has also produced married couples, many more than KS group. It could be that he is very careful about the types of people he let's in that group versus the people in his superchat that line his pockets and those who call in. I'm looking at the large majority of callers he's had, both male and female, over time it doesn't appear that his callers are getting more intelligent or better at attracting good mates. Why do the same types of people keep calling in with the same trope?

GMB should only be reserved for those that don't want to have children. A two parent home is the most stable for a child and the strongest form of a two parent home is a married couple. Children that don't grow up in a two parent household are:

- More likely to be underemployed
- More likely to go to jail
- More likely to have children out of wedlock
- Less likely to graduate high school
- less likely to get married
- more likely to live in poverty
- more likely to require government assistance
- less likely to own a home
- less likely to own a business

If you want black children to flourish then it makes sense to believe in black marriage. That is one thing me and KS def agree on.
He purposely search’s for bad callers too. You have to peep that
 

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He purposely search’s for bad callers too. You have to peep that

That's true, but to me that proves this is more about entertaining for him than education. Hes a businessman more than a life coach. Dude looks for the lamest, delusional, entitled men and women he can find to entertain listeners.

And it aint hard because there are 3 options for callers

A. Be someone who agrees with him...and get hung up on (because he's looking for disagreements)
B. Be someone who disputes something he said and back it with logic...and get hung up on
C. Be a delusion problematic a$$hole...and get a little bit of air time before he eviscerates you with logic, then hangs up on you
 

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That's true, but to me that proves this is more about entertaining for him than education. Hes a businessman more than a life coach. Dude looks for the lamest, delusional, entitled men and women he can find to entertain listeners.

And it aint hard because there are 3 options for callers

A. Be someone who agrees with him...and get hung up on (because he's looking for disagreements)
B. Be someone who disputes something he said and back it with logic...and get hung up on
C. Be a delusion problematic a$$hole...and get a little bit of air time before he eviscerates you with logic, then hangs up on you

I have agreed with less than 5 women the entire time.
 

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That's true, but to me that proves this is more about entertaining for him than education. Hes a businessman more than a life coach. Dude looks for the lamest, delusional, entitled men and women he can find to entertain listeners.

And it aint hard because there are 3 options for callers

A. Be someone who agrees with him...and get hung up on (because he's looking for disagreements)
B. Be someone who disputes something he said and back it with logic...and get hung up on
C. Be a delusion problematic a$$hole...and get a little bit of air time before he eviscerates you with logic, then hangs up on you
The thing is he pushes people into getting coaching through his sessions. From what I heard his sessions are actually good and extremely helpful.
These late night ones are more of making the said caller an “example to the class/audience”based on the topic. I have no problem with it, as these can still be informative depending on the caller.
 

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The thing is he pushes people into getting coaching through his sessions. From what I heard his sessions are actually good and extremely helpful.
These late night ones are more of making the said caller an “example to the class/audience”based on the topic. I have no problem with it, as these can still be informative depending on the caller.

So this is where I start getting this shxt wrong and need to step outside of myself.

There is nothing, that I know of, that Kevin Samuels has stated (that I agree with), that isn't common sense to me.

- KS corporate track record is sparse at best (according to his LinkedIn) so I can't take him seriously for corporate advice
- I dont need assistance with women, I have plenty of fine women friends, and before I had a GF, I had a rotation
- I have a network already with really strong mentors
- I make decent money and have a financial advisor
- I take care of my body and work out 5-6 days a week

But when I look at the Coli, I see how many brehs are out here suffering.

- Brehs make threads promoting IG bops, but how many brehs have a mentor?
- How many brehs make more than 40k?
- How many brehs have a financial plan?
- How many brehs have a life plan?
- How many brehs are in decent shape?
- How many brehs possess the leadership skills required to lead a family?
- How many brehs have the discipline to stay faithful to a good woman?
- How many brehs have a mental routine that includes a therapist?

I dont have a need for his advice...unless I wanted to start a successful YT channel.

I get it, this place is basically a barbershop, but it's obvious alot of these guys are frustrated over women and the way their lives are going instead of focusing on developing a purpose and some life goals.

A man like that DEFINITELY needs a life coach and may need KS help, because it's clear he's doesn't have what's required to help himself.

Our community is plagued by a lack of unity and a lack accountability...both men and women.
 

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I dont agree with 100% of what anyone says, but I actually agree with much of what he says. I've said multiple times that I dont have an issue with his angle. He's an entertainer and he does his job well. My concern is with dusty guys using his talking points when they aren't HVM, and the attacks they use when some people disagree (your post is a good example).

There are people that watch KS solely because of the way he eviscerates delusional women and it makes them feel better about their lame little lives

I agree the Daddy language is dismissive, just like calling someone simp when you don't agree with them.

KS is an intelligent man. He knows as a 50 something 2x divorce bachelor man he is not the best person to try to reach women and help them do better.

I believe men are supposed to be leaders in a community, if that's the case then why does it matter what women are doing in their space? That's a form of deflection and it certainly hasn't kept men from being desired by women. If a man is a grown man on his square, sure of himself, and in his purpose then birds won't try him with the BS and women of some substance will be attracted to him.

At least that's been my experience

:yeshrug:
giphy.webp

you said a bunch of nothing:russ:
This is why I don’t do back and forth:mjlol:
Again
You can have a dissenting POV
Nothing wrong with that and if you agree with everything anybody says
Then yes something is wrong with that individual
Even constructive criticism is necessary to grow
The problem lays with nikkas like you
You talking all that
Peace my brother this
Peace my brother that
Amazing brother
But as soon as a black man has anything to say about anything in this world
That doesn’t go with status quo or doesn’t make you FEEL good like a woman
The insults come out
He gay
Hes your daddy
Who hurt you
Your very own post calling nikkas lame for wanting monogamy, marriage and family
Which is counterproductive to the black community
We need more healthy relationships and parenting
Guaranteed I will see your goofy ass in a thread chastising a crash test dummy for doing an unfavorable act
But guess what
If a lame nikka and a lame bytch got together
Raised and nurtured that child to become a man who thinks for himself
Takes pride in community
Created and raised children with his same mindset
That would go along in his life to create more loving, successful people
Wouldn’t that boost the black community:jbhmm:
It’s truly strange reading blackity black shyt from you nikkas
But in the same breath
You switch ideals and vocalize opinions that go against the very thing you want so much:jbhmm:
Again the math ain’t mathing :pachaha:
Get your response on and I hope you get the validation and daps you are looking for from weirdos like you
Back to my movie night with my lame ass wife:russ:
Goodnight beloved:mjgrin:
 

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So this is where I start getting this shxt wrong and need to step outside of myself.

There is nothing, that I know of, that Kevin Samuels has stated (that I agree with), that isn't common sense to me.

- KS corporate track record is sparse at best (according to his LinkedIn) so I can't take him seriously for corporate advice
- I dont need assistance with women, I have plenty of fine women friends, and before I had a GF, I had a rotation
- I have a network already with really strong mentors
- I make decent money and have a financial advisor
- I take care of my body and work out 5-6 days a week

But when I look at the Coli, I see how many brehs are out here suffering.

- Brehs make threads promoting IG bops, but how many brehs have a mentor?
- How many brehs make more than 40k?
- How many brehs have a financial plan?
- How many brehs have a life plan?
- How many brehs are in decent shape?
- How many brehs possess the leadership skills required to lead a family?
- How many brehs have the discipline to stay faithful to a good woman?
- How many brehs have a mental routine that includes a therapist?

I dont have a need for his advice...unless I wanted to start a successful YT channel.

I get it, this place is basically a barbershop, but it's obvious alot of these guys are frustrated over women and the way their lives are going instead of focusing on developing a purpose and some life goals.

A man like that DEFINITELY needs a life coach and may need KS help, because it's clear he's doesn't have what's required to help himself.

Our community is plagued by a lack of unity and a lack accountability...both men and women.
But what I’m saying is his fan base isn’t comprised of just the two extremes. Some of y’all make it seem like you either “red pill” or some type of loser or you are a delusional women. It’s not that simple. His fan base ain’t just on the coli or other forums. It’s not just people with no father figure. He has married couples “HVM” and all types of people following him. So as I would say to anyone about these type of people. If he isn’t helpful to YOU and you don’t find entertainment in his videos then thats cool. But don’t try to shame his followers or say they are in desperate need for father figures.

I haven’t heard not one real counter argument against anything he says. Btw
 

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you said a bunch of nothing:russ:
This is why I don’t do back and forth:mjlol:
Again
You can have a dissenting POV
Nothing wrong with that and if you agree with everything anybody says
Then yes something is wrong with that individual
Even constructive criticism is necessary to grow
The problem lays with nikkas like you
You talking all that
Peace my brother this
Peace my brother that
Amazing brother
But as soon as a black man has anything to say about anything in this world
That doesn’t go with status quo or doesn’t make you FEEL good like a woman
The insults come out
He gay
Hes your daddy
Who hurt you
Your very own post calling nikkas lame for wanting monogamy, marriage and family

Which is counterproductive to the black community
We need more healthy relationships and parenting
Guaranteed I will see your goofy ass in a thread chastising a crash test dummy for doing an unfavorable act
But guess what
If a lame nikka and a lame bytch got together
Raised and nurtured that child to become a man who thinks for himself
Takes pride in community
Created and raised children with his same mindset
That would go along in his life to create more loving, successful people
Wouldn’t that boost the black community:jbhmm:
It’s truly strange reading blackity black shyt from you nikkas
But in the same breath
You switch ideals and vocalize opinions that go against the very thing you want so much:jbhmm:
Again the math ain’t mathing :pachaha:
Get your response on and I hope you get the validation and daps you are looking for from weirdos like you
Back to my movie night with my lame ass wife:russ:
Goodnight beloved:mjgrin:

It would make sense that you don't do back and forths. You probably value winning an argument over honest discourse. Based on our interaction here you're making assumptions based on things I never said, attempting to sterotype me based on other people you've interacted with, and haven't refuted any of my points in a way that's tangible.

You're either projecting, a troll, or youre confusing me with another poster. On the previous page I defended the importance of black marriage and monogamy.

This is what I said:

GMB should only be reserved for those that don't want to have children. A two parent home is the most stable for a child and the strongest form of a two parent home is a married couple. Children that don't grow up in a two parent household are:

- More likely to be underemployed
- More likely to go to jail
- More likely to have children out of wedlock
- Less likely to graduate high school
- less likely to get married
- more likely to live in poverty
- more likely to require government assistance
- less likely to own a home
- less likely to own a business

If you want black children to flourish then it makes sense to believe in black marriage. That is one thing me and KS def agree on.

I'm not sure where you got your assumption from.


Get some sleep Coli breh and have a good night. You sound like you could use some rest.

:hubie:
 
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So this is where I start getting this shxt wrong and need to step outside of myself.

There is nothing, that I know of, that Kevin Samuels has stated (that I agree with), that isn't common sense to me.

- KS corporate track record is sparse at best (according to his LinkedIn) so I can't take him seriously for corporate advice
- I dont need assistance with women, I have plenty of fine women friends, and before I had a GF, I had a rotation
- I have a network already with really strong mentors
- I make decent money and have a financial advisor
- I take care of my body and work out 5-6 days a week

But when I look at the Coli, I see how many brehs are out here suffering.

- Brehs make threads promoting IG bops, but how many brehs have a mentor?
- How many brehs make more than 40k?
- How many brehs have a financial plan?
- How many brehs have a life plan?
- How many brehs are in decent shape?
- How many brehs possess the leadership skills required to lead a family?
- How many brehs have the discipline to stay faithful to a good woman?
- How many brehs have a mental routine that includes a therapist?

I dont have a need for his advice...unless I wanted to start a successful YT channel.

I get it, this place is basically a barbershop, but it's obvious alot of these guys are frustrated over women and the way their lives are going instead of focusing on developing a purpose and some life goals.

A man like that DEFINITELY needs a life coach and may need KS help, because it's clear he's doesn't have what's required to help himself.

Our community is plagued by a lack of unity and a lack accountability...both men and women.

At least you see it, too many in our community lack empathy and thrown into that is the limiting idea of what a black man is, should be and should know.
 

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I tried to give him a chance and this was the first comment I saw on FB;



He hit all the nonsense talking points;
  • He empowers bytch ass men
  • Men are the most dangerous thing to women (Doing the shyt even racist do by bringing up whopping 4 violent incidents)
  • Most of KS fans are only there to watch him shyt on women
  • He twisted the whole "do you want to pay significant bills" question into "women die in childbirth...they shouldn't" when in reality, 70% of mother have a job, but, men are dusty for believing women should still work after having a kid.
I'll give him this, he came in wanting to get at KS stans, but, he still came with weak ass arguments.

He's right, these calls shouldn't be used to say Women Don't Deserve Nothing. Men's Week :laugh: was a shyt show.

He actually didn't really get at Kevin, but, still made excuses for the women.

I've said it; I more or less agree with Kevin's platform, even shyt like hypergamy. But, Ryan was very much on that "what a man supposed to do." And misses the point that a lot of women (on the show) disqualify themselves from these type of men.
 

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I tried to give him a chance and this was the first comment I saw on FB;



He hit all the nonsense talking points;
  • He empowers bytch ass men
  • Men are the most dangerous thing to women (Doing the shyt even racist do by bringing up whopping 4 violent incidents)
  • Most of KS fans are only there to watch him shyt on women
  • He twisted the whole "do you want to pay significant bills" question into "women die in childbirth...they shouldn't" when in reality, 70% of mother have a job, but, men are dusty for believing women should still work after having a kid.
I'll give him this, he came in wanting to get at KS stans, but, he still came with weak ass arguments.

He's right, these calls shouldn't be used to say Women Don't Deserve Nothing. Men's Week :laugh: was a shyt show.

He actually didn't really get at Kevin, but, still made excuses for the women.

I've said it; I more or less agree with Kevin's platform, even shyt like hypergamy. But, Ryan was very much on that "what a man supposed to do." And misses the point that a lot of women (on the show) disqualify themselves from these type of men.


Ryan is coming from an emotional because he has a daughter

:mjlol:

Ryan is trying to keep up with the dysfunction and let pander to women by using KS was a stepping pad.

I wish a woman would call her mom to FaceTime me FOH.
 

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I tried to give him a chance and this was the first comment I saw on FB;



He hit all the nonsense talking points;
  • He empowers bytch ass men
  • Men are the most dangerous thing to women (Doing the shyt even racist do by bringing up whopping 4 violent incidents)
  • Most of KS fans are only there to watch him shyt on women
  • He twisted the whole "do you want to pay significant bills" question into "women die in childbirth...they shouldn't" when in reality, 70% of mother have a job, but, men are dusty for believing women should still work after having a kid.
I'll give him this, he came in wanting to get at KS stans, but, he still came with weak ass arguments.

He's right, these calls shouldn't be used to say Women Don't Deserve Nothing. Men's Week :laugh: was a shyt show.

He actually didn't really get at Kevin, but, still made excuses for the women.

I've said it; I more or less agree with Kevin's platform, even shyt like hypergamy. But, Ryan was very much on that "what a man supposed to do." And misses the point that a lot of women (on the show) disqualify themselves from these type of men.



the simple fact dudes want to remove agency from women illustrates its over.

You build the perfect man, what does he have to choose from for a mate?

:mjlol:

At this point just strap your seatbelt on and watch this society burn.
 

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By the way what’s the with people calling others who support other men “ daddy”? “Oh you watch Kevin Samuels videos? That’s yo daddy?” I agree some dudes follow his every action and word to a tee and defend him but a guy gets popular and now he’s every ones “daddy”? Is that the new shaming tactic?:mjlol:ive been seeing this on Facebook lately.
Its a common tactic for black folk to shame other black people, as most black folk assume black boy were raised without fathers. Its low key racist and disgusting how the insult is so freely used, especially when there is no actual argument to slam a person
 
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