Ladies Ever Consider Submission as a Way to Win?

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

I can tell you already @BlackPearl you will notice that you not only get more out of men but you also will have a better attitude and less stress.


Now as far as being submissive overall its something that comes naturally to some and not so much to others. I think its bad this day and age to be submissive because men will take full advantage over women like that and drain them dry.

However if a submissive woman links up with a good man those are the relationships that last a lifetime.


Dont be a doormat, or not speak your mind but sometimes you just got to and let a man lead even if you know he about to lead you into the fire.


As men we are stubborn, we rage out then get hurt or have time to clam down and go "she probably was right" or "I understand why you doing what you doing" and then we level up....


Sadly today we have alot of women that just can't and refuse to do that.



Also being submissive lets you back away from the alpha males that you might feel like you need in your life. I haven't run across a TRUE alpha male that doesn't cheat or doesn't feel like a woman is there equal.

Yes I have already experienced the bold. It's quite nice.

As far as the rest hun there are plenty of non-submissive women who get taken advantage of everyday (probably more so). In fact, they are usually the ones crying about men the loudest. Also all types of men cheat. Being with a "beta" won't stop him from cheating.

Submission doesn't have anything to do with being a doormat. I can respectably speak up for myself and then if a resolution can't be reached can easily walk away. All you need is standards and options. If someone doesn't operate within your standards you let them go and move on to the next option.

 

[Lady.Libra.]

@CinnaSlim, what's up? Why am I unable to 'Rep' you?

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Will do.

It's going to be challenging because I'm going to try it with 2 people that I am already defensive with and/or think of negatively
But I have a head start though as there are plenty of instances when both of them try to redeem themselves. BUT I get stuck in my head like - " No, bytchass, don't try to be nice now! Keep behaving like an ass. " (I'm so petty).
So, when the next opportunity comes up, I'm going to set the wheels-of-submission in motion!

Okay cool. I look forward to the update.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

@CinnaSlim, what's up? Why am I unable to 'Rep' you?

The same thing happened to me. Just reload the page.

 

[CinnaSlim]

This is the type of threads the Salon needs.

@CinnaSlim, what's up? Why am I unable to 'Rep' you?

no idea. If the rep button is not there. Sometimes you have to refresh. If you get the slow down on thr reps message then idk.

 

[Lady.Libra.]

Yes I have already experienced the bold. It's quite nice.

As far as the rest hun there are plenty of non-submissive women who get taken advantage of everyday (probably more so). In fact, they are usually the ones crying about men the loudest. Also all types of men cheat. Being with a "beta" won't stop him from cheating.

Submission doesn't have anything to do with being a doormat. I can respectably speak up for myself and then if a resolution can't be reached can easily walk away. All you need is standards and options. If someone doesn't operate within your standards you let them go and move on to the next option.

This is me 100%.

 

[Rawtid]

So pretending not to be argumentative b/c someone told you to do so is not "phony" but acceptable. However, attempting to treat people in a more positive manner on your own accord inorder to prepare yourself for a positive relationship is "phony" and trying too hard.

Riiiiiiiight

I don't think I'm doing a good job explaining my point so let me try one more time. The things you outlined in the OP seem like traits you've identified as negative and are looking to change. There is nothing wrong with that. However, just because you do those things doesn't necessarily qualify you as submissive if that makes sense.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Yes I have already experienced the bold. It's quite nice.

As far as the rest hun there are plenty of non-submissive women who get taken advantage of everyday (probably more so). In fact, they are usually the ones crying about men the loudest. Also all types of men cheat. Being with a "beta" won't stop him from cheating.

Submission doesn't have anything to do with being a doormat. I can respectably speak up for myself and then if a resolution can't be reached can easily walk away. All you need is standards and options. If someone doesn't operate within your standards you let them go and move on to the next option.

The way you speak kind of reminds me of my younger sister

If we had convo's we would probably debate on everything under the sun giving our person points of view while over all agreeing on the subject matter.

 

[Lady.Libra.]

This. Only to the dikk I'm riding, though. The guy I'm dating now, I don't think he's ever heard ME cuss I cuss like a sailor.

Girl, not even when riding said dikk?!
J/K...I couldn't resist LOL

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Shes not arguing for no reason tho.

What she means is that when she feels disrespected or something that needs to be corrected. She doesn't just react right away in resistance to it. She's not fighting fire with fire.

Shes taking a step back and allowing the whole thing to play out so she can get a better understanding of it and act on it in a less stressful way. Because when you attack someone who you perceive as attacking you both of you get defensive and not much gets accomplished because no one wants to listen instead they are both trying to get their points across.

This makes more sense, but it this nor her previous behaviors have to do with "submission". I think the way that word is being used here is wrong.

For example wifey used to fly off the handle a bit and I told her that shyt wasn't cool and I wouldn't stand for it. She calmed down and changed her approach. Is that submission? I don't think so. There's shyt I used to do she wasn't happy about, and I did the same. Likewise the man being argumentative/overreacting/emotional is just as damaging as a woman being that way.

I just see the term "submission" as one of those hotep paintings of a woman on her knees hugging her man's leg like a shy child hugging a parent Not flying off the handle and letting your emotions drive your actions and interactions is Basic Human Interaction 101.

 

[Lady.Libra.]

This makes more sense, but it this nor her previous behaviors have to do with "submission". I think the way that word is being used here is wrong.

For example wifey used to fly off the handle a bit and I told her that shyt wasn't cool and I wouldn't stand for it. She calmed down and changed her approach. Is that submission? I don't think so. There's shyt I used to do she wasn't happy about, and I did the same. Likewise the man being argumentative/overreacting/emotional is just as damaging as a woman being that way.

I just see the term "submission" as one of those hotep paintings of a woman on her knees hugging her man's leg like a shy child hugging a parent Not flying off the handle and letting your emotions drive your actions and interactions is Basic Human Interaction 101.

Well have a mental shift and think of it as 'Submitting to Self'
We only have control of ourselves ( )...but if we allow external variables - people and/or situations - to dictate how we respond, then they own you and as a result could puppet your actions. Expend the [positive] energy to have a mutually satisfying outcome or walk away.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Well have a mental shift and think of it as 'Submitting to Self'
We only have control of ourselves ( )...but if we allow external variables - people and/or situations - to dictate how we respond, then they own you and as a result could puppet your actions. Expend the [positive] energy to have a mutually satisfying outcome or walk away.

I can get with that.

 

[CinnaSlim]

This makes more sense, but it this nor her previous behaviors have to do with "submission". I think the way that word is being used here is wrong.

For example wifey used to fly off the handle a bit and I told her that shyt wasn't cool and I wouldn't stand for it. She calmed down and changed her approach. Is that submission? I don't think so. There's shyt I used to do she wasn't happy about, and I did the same. Likewise the man being argumentative/overreacting/emotional is just as damaging as a woman being that way.

I just see the term "submission" as one of those hotep paintings of a woman on her knees hugging her man's leg like a shy child hugging a parent Not flying off the handle and letting your emotions drive your actions and interactions is Basic Human Interaction 101.

That's the reason people resist submission because they misunderstand what it means to submit. Its not being a doormat or a child. Its not losing power or autonomy. People submit to people of authority all the time but wont submit in relationships to people who mean the most to them.

To submit means to yield. Like in driving, it's not a stop sign or telling you what you cant do. It just means to bend or give a little instead of staying rigid and firm. So basically being open and compromising.

Like how palm trees can bend to the resistance of strong winds and still be fine. Tough rigid oak tress break under the same pressure. If you want to work together with someone with a difference perspective and opinions, someone has to be willing to bend or yield and let the other go first.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Maybe I am just being overly semantic but I like the term "yield" way more than "submit". Yielding is absolutely critical.... you have to think before you act/react.

 

[Lady.Libra.]

That's the reason people resist submission because they misunderstand what it means to submit. Its not being a doormat or a child. Its not losing power or autonomy. People submit to people of authority all the time but wont submit in relationships to people who mean the most to them.

To submit means to yield. Like in driving, it's not a stop sign or telling you what you cant do. It just means to bend or give a little instead of staying rigid and firm. So basically being open and compromising.

Like how palm trees can bend to the resistance of strong winds and still be fine. Tough rigid oak tress break under the same pressure. If you want to work together with someone with a difference perspective and opinions, someone has to be willing to bend or yield and let the other go first.

Beautiful