Lets talk about 2pac selling 5 million in 2 months and biggie selling 2 million in 2 years

['Lando]

"2 million in 2 years", actually Ready to Die was certified double platinum (2,000,000) in 1995 and it was released in 1994 (look it up if you dont believe it), so this isnt really true. i have seen that vibe interview that was done with pac where he said all of this about how he sold "5 million in 2 months" etc but facts are facts and one of those facts happens to be that Ready to Die was certified double platinum (2x) on October 16, 1995 according to the RIAA.com website, and RIAA is the organization that gives out the album certifications. I would much rather take the RIAA's word and statistics over 2pac's because he's not presenting any real factual figures for album sales such as soundscan numbers, he's just saying "biggies album been out 2 years he's barely touching 2 million", without giving any real evidence to back that up. he also forgets to mention how his first album took 4 years just to go gold and how it took his second album 2 years just to got platinum once, and they never received another certification after those ones. this can all be proven by looking at information on the RIAA.com site

 

[Still Benefited]

nikkas still hyping up Biggies diamond sells as if he would've sold that much without Pac making the world wanna hear how he would respond to getting verbally abused,and not to mention this beef getting him killed helping his sales.

Dudes sitting here with a straight face talkin bout Deathrow is the only reason Pac sold what he sold,who the hell you think is responsible for Biggie LAD selling if not Deathrow and its staff and allegedly its shooters?at least 1 million of them sales go to Suge,and another million to the goat

 

['Lando]

@StillNotSoft "and not to mention this beef getting him killed helping his sales"

- lets talk more about all eyez on me sales' skyrocketing after pac's death. http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/19...70488_1_tupac-shakur-shakur-s-death-death-row -"That album, All Eyez on Me, ``skyrocketed and all his albums sold handsomely. In the week after his death, there were more Tupac records sold than Nirvana records following the first week of Kurt Cobain's suicide.'' and then lets also talk some more about how don killuminati sold extremely well because of his death...(and, but to a lesser degree, because pac's body was being crucified on a cross on the album cover).
-"Last November, two months after Shakur's death, Death Row released (as scheduled) The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, which Shakur recorded under the name Makaveli. Not surprisingly, it opened at No. 1 with first-week sales of 664,000. Gridlock'd, the soundtrack to Shakur's last film (with only two Shakur tracks on it), also opened at No. 1 in February, but with sales of only 150,000." .


"Dudes sitting here with a straight face talkin bout Deathrow is the only reason Pac sold what he sold"


-well actually, if you want to delve further into the subject of album sales, there is proof that deathrow is basically the only reason he sold what he sold, because to this day pac's first 2 albums including thug life combined have still not sold as much as ready to die, and me against the world is currently only certified 2 times platinum while ready to die is certified 4 times platinum, and Life After Death was certified diamond years before all eyez on me was.


"who the hell you think is responsible for Biggie LAD selling if not Deathrow and its staff and allegedly its shooters"...


- "allegedly" is right because theres no proof DR had anything to do with it, nor is there proof that the "beef" is what got biggie killed.


and "at least 1 million of them sales go to Suge, and another million to the goat."
- thats all just 100% speculation and BS ur pulling out of ur ass.

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

@StillNotSoft "and not to mention this beef getting him killed helping his sales"

- lets talk more about all eyez on me sales' skyrocketing after pac's death. http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/19...70488_1_tupac-shakur-shakur-s-death-death-row -"That album, All Eyez on Me, ``skyrocketed and all his albums sold handsomely. In the week after his death, there were more Tupac records sold than Nirvana records following the first week of Kurt Cobain's suicide.'' and then lets also talk some more about how don killuminati sold extremely well because of his death...(and, but to a lesser degree, because pac's body was being crucified on a cross on the album cover).
-"Last November, two months after Shakur's death, Death Row released (as scheduled) The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, which Shakur recorded under the name Makaveli. Not surprisingly, it opened at No. 1 with first-week sales of 664,000. Gridlock'd, the soundtrack to Shakur's last film (with only two Shakur tracks on it), also opened at No. 1 in February, but with sales of only 150,000." .


"Dudes sitting here with a straight face talkin bout Deathrow is the only reason Pac sold what he sold"


-well actually, if you want to delve further into the subject of album sales, there is proof that deathrow is basically the only reason he sold what he sold, because to this day pac's first 2 albums including thug life combined have still not sold as much as ready to die, and me against the world is currently only certified 2 times platinum while ready to die is certified 4 times platinum, and Life After Death was certified diamond years before all eyez on me was.


"who the hell you think is responsible for Biggie LAD selling if not Deathrow and its staff and allegedly its shooters"...


- "allegedly" is right because theres no proof DR had anything to do with it, nor is there proof that the "beef" is what got biggie killed.


and "at least 1 million of them sales go to Suge, and another million to the goat."
- thats all just 100% speculation and BS ur pulling out of ur ass.

 

[Nomad1]

@StillNotSoft "and not to mention this beef getting him killed helping his sales"

- lets talk more about all eyez on me sales' skyrocketing after pac's death. http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/19...70488_1_tupac-shakur-shakur-s-death-death-row -"That album, All Eyez on Me, ``skyrocketed and all his albums sold handsomely. In the week after his death, there were more Tupac records sold than Nirvana records following the first week of Kurt Cobain's suicide.'' and then lets also talk some more about how don killuminati sold extremely well because of his death...(and, but to a lesser degree, because pac's body was being crucified on a cross on the album cover).
-"Last November, two months after Shakur's death, Death Row released (as scheduled) The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, which Shakur recorded under the name Makaveli. Not surprisingly, it opened at No. 1 with first-week sales of 664,000. Gridlock'd, the soundtrack to Shakur's last film (with only two Shakur tracks on it), also opened at No. 1 in February, but with sales of only 150,000." .


"Dudes sitting here with a straight face talkin bout Deathrow is the only reason Pac sold what he sold"


-well actually, if you want to delve further into the subject of album sales, there is proof that deathrow is basically the only reason he sold what he sold, because to this day pac's first 2 albums including thug life combined have still not sold as much as ready to die, and me against the world is currently only certified 2 times platinum while ready to die is certified 4 times platinum, and Life After Death was certified diamond years before all eyez on me was.


"who the hell you think is responsible for Biggie LAD selling if not Deathrow and its staff and allegedly its shooters"...


- "allegedly" is right because theres no proof DR had anything to do with it, nor is there proof that the "beef" is what got biggie killed.


and "at least 1 million of them sales go to Suge, and another million to the goat."
- thats all just 100% speculation and BS ur pulling out of ur ass.

Biggie went diamond because of his death

 

[Nomad1]

ready to die is certified 4 times platinum, and Life After Death was certified diamond years before all eyez on me was.

LAD went diamond in 2000 and AEOM was 9x in 1998 and was supposed to be diamond way before LAD but DR fukked up the paperworks

 

['Lando]

Biggie went diamond because of his death

LAD went diamond in 2000 and AEOM was 9x in 1998 and was supposed to be diamond way before LAD but DR fukked up the paperworks

@Nomad1 and 2pac didnt? i already showed proof that pac's sales skyrocketed after his death and said that ready to die had sold more than pac's first two albums, including thug life, combined BEFORE biggie died(this is all factual information, look it up if you dont believe me), earlier on in the thread which can be quoted here

"2 million in 2 years", actually Ready to Die was certified double platinum (2,000,000) in 1995 and it was released in 1994 (look it up if you dont believe it), so this isnt really true. i have seen that vibe interview that was done with pac where he said all of this about how he sold "5 million in 2 months" etc but facts are facts and one of those facts happens to be that Ready to Die was certified double platinum (2x) on October 16, 1995 according to the RIAA.com website, and RIAA is the organization that gives out the album certifications. I would much rather take the RIAA's word and statistics over 2pac's because he's not presenting any real factual figures for album sales such as soundscan numbers, he's just saying "biggies album been out 2 years he's barely touching 2 million", without giving any real evidence to back that up. he also forgets to mention how his first album took 4 years just to go gold and how it took his second album 2 years just to got platinum once, and they never received another certification after those ones.

and like you said all eyez on me was certified 9x platinum (9 times platinum)(9,000,000) in 1998, 2 years after pac's death, so that would kind of contradict the claim that he didnt just sell very well because he died. and still for some reason life after death managed to go diamond so many years before all eyez on me did, guess all eyez on me wasnt as good then huh?


"and was supposed to be diamond way before LAD but DR fukked up the paperworks" ...got any proof?

 

[Juggalo Fred]

makaveli is the best cd ever


all eyez on me is the best double disc ever



thug life is the best group album ever


r u still down is the best posthumous album ever

 

[Still Benefited]

@StillNotSoft "and not to mention this beef getting him killed helping his sales"

- lets talk more about all eyez on me sales' skyrocketing after pac's death. http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/19...70488_1_tupac-shakur-shakur-s-death-death-row -"That album, All Eyez on Me, ``skyrocketed and all his albums sold handsomely. In the week after his death, there were more Tupac records sold than Nirvana records following the first week of Kurt Cobain's suicide.'' and then lets also talk some more about how don killuminati sold extremely well because of his death...(and, but to a lesser degree, because pac's body was being crucified on a cross on the album cover).
-"Last November, two months after Shakur's death, Death Row released (as scheduled) The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory, which Shakur recorded under the name Makaveli. Not surprisingly, it opened at No. 1 with first-week sales of 664,000. Gridlock'd, the soundtrack to Shakur's last film (with only two Shakur tracks on it), also opened at No. 1 in February, but with sales of only 150,000." .


"Dudes sitting here with a straight face talkin bout Deathrow is the only reason Pac sold what he sold"


-well actually, if you want to delve further into the subject of album sales, there is proof that deathrow is basically the only reason he sold what he sold, because to this day pac's first 2 albums including thug life combined have still not sold as much as ready to die, and me against the world is currently only certified 2 times platinum while ready to die is certified 4 times platinum, and Life After Death was certified diamond years before all eyez on me was.


"who the hell you think is responsible for Biggie LAD selling if not Deathrow and its staff and allegedly its shooters"...


- "allegedly" is right because theres no proof DR had anything to do with it, nor is there proof that the "beef" is what got biggie killed.


and "at least 1 million of them sales go to Suge, and another million to the goat."
- thats all just 100% speculation and BS ur pulling out of ur ass.

If we gon talk about it lets talk about it instead of leaving out other shyt that it mentions in the very article YOU posted

"For instance, the Notorious B.I.G.'s Life After Death album, released just two weeks after B.I.G. (Christopher Wallace, a k a Biggie Smalls) was gunned down in Los Angeles, sold 685,000 copies the first week and has remained atop the Billboard album chart for three weeks. Since it was already one of 1997's most highly anticipated rap albums, it's hard to judge how much Smalls' murder helped sales.
According to Geoff Mayfield, Billboard's director of charts, Life After Death was ``certainly a contender to debut at No. 1, but his first album never threatened to do that. Gangsta rap can be big any time, but the suspicion is it wouldn't have happened with as large a number as it did, had it not been for that event. One big national chain said that its sales were four times the original projection'' before Smalls was killed.
In the week after Smalls' death, about 10,000 copies of his 1994 debut,
Ready to Die, were sold, Mayfield notes, adding that, ``There was only so much stock out there since people knew he had a new album coming, though another chain said they would have sold more had they had more.''


You can play dumb if you want breh,you know damn well the anticipation of what Big would say in response to Pac as well as his death helped his sales of LAD and apparently RTD too...difference between me and you is I don't debate death helped Pacs sales becuz that would be stupid. But Pac haters and Biggie stans always use that death helping Pacs sales as if it only applies to Pac but not Biggie sumhow,like he sold diamond without controversy or dying

Far as MATW being only 2 times platinum

While Shakur was in prison, the album over-took Bruce Springsteen's Greatest Hits as the best-selling album in the United States, a feat which he took pride in.[8] Shakur became the first artist to have a number one album while serving a prison sentence.[22] It achieved multi platinum status and has sold 3,524,567 copies in the United States as of 2011.[25]
Tupac Shakur's virtual appearance on the annual Coachella Festival (April 15, 2012) saw gains in sales, the album sold 1,000 copies the following week (Up by 53% from the previous week).[26]


Still selling 500 copies a week in 2014...Why am I even arguing sales wit you nikkas when the goat is international and the highest selling rapper of all time not counting Eminem who don't count....oh that's right cuz yall don't wanna talk about how many classics Pac got vs how many Biggie got,yall don't wanna talk about how Biggie spent 96 in fear and trying to find allies for a fukk Pac coalition

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

@Nomad1 and 2pac didnt? i already showed proof that pac's sales skyrocketed after his death and also proof that ready to die had sold more than pac's first two albums including thug life combined BEFORE biggie died, earlier on in the thread which can be quoted here


and like you said all eyez on me was certified 9x platinum (9 times platinum)(9,000,000) in 1998, 2 years after pac's death, so that would kind of contradict pac not only just selling well because he died. and still for some reason life after death managed to go diamond so many years before all eyez on me did, guess all eyez on me wasnt as good then huh?


"and was supposed to be diamond way before LAD but DR fukked up the paperworks" ...got any proof?

them facts ....lol @ this alias 7 posts in got pac stans furious in here

 

[Still Benefited]

and be honest,without Pac what is Biggies career really?i actually hate the fact they have to be tied together to be honest....if only Biggie could've lived and just got killed from natural causes,better known as Hova the god in 1998

 

[Juggalo Fred]

lets not forget Biggie copied Me against the world's demo making pac have to change the whole album



songs like Only Fear Of Death were scrapped cuz biggie ripped em off

 

[Juggalo Fred]

ironically the song for Ready to die that got scrapped, House of Pain pac n biggie both got outshined by Stretch of the live squad go and listen to the og and youll see Stretch got em!

 

[Juggalo Fred]

oh and puffy is the reason the song got scrapped it was too hardcore to him

 

[Nomad1]

@Nomad1 and 2pac didnt? i already showed proof that pac's sales skyrocketed after his death and also proof that ready to die had sold more than pac's first two albums including thug life combined BEFORE biggie died, earlier on in the thread which can be quoted here


and like you said all eyez on me was certified 9x platinum (9 times platinum)(9,000,000) in 1998, 2 years after pac's death, so that would kind of contradict pac not only just selling well because he died. and still for some reason life after death managed to go diamond so many years before all eyez on me did, guess all eyez on me wasnt as good then huh?


"and was supposed to be diamond way before LAD but DR fukked up the paperworks" ...got any proof?

"i already showed proof that pac's sales skyrocketed after his death"

1.) Isn't that common sense? You gave a link of other dead artists having their sales skyrocketed after death;
"For Recording Stars, Death Is Ultimate Sales Pitch"

2.) And how did Pac contradict himself?

3.) "and was supposed to be diamond way before LAD but DR fukked up the paperworks" ...got any proof?

"According to E.D.I., Pac's classic album has sold close to 20 million worldwide. The rapper also has paperwork to support his claims."

Sales were not counted since 1998, he was stuck at 9 million. Nobody filed the paperwork and did audit.