LOL at everyone who killed Scottie Pippen For saying Bulls would handle Warriors

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To generate more offense whenever he becomes a net-negative on the court.

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lol net negative?


You need to stop marginalizing the game into layman's. It's not as simple as it doesn't matter if he doesn't provide offense, he can just rebound. You've got to first look how his lack of offense is affecting the game against a team which can generate points at all positions, on both sides of the ball and if his rebounding activity not only gives them an advantage (if it makes up for what they lose in offense) but also what it does to influence other areas.

Teams left rodman open all the time, why is it different here? The bulls can live with rodman not scoring when jordan can give you 40+ and pippen 25+ on any given night. Rodman's defense and rebounding far far outweigh his offensive inability

The difference here is, Roberson is a wing player who can guard and limit all the action the Warriors have on the perimeter and with the Thunder's adjustment over the last two games has now been an offensive threat because he's knocking down shots and is cutting to the rim. Rodman at that age wouldn't be able to provide the PF-equivalent on offense. Not to mention the Thunder are arguably the greatest rebounding team since the early 70s.


but roberson is still a liability, especially when they intentionally foul him. So that can limit him. He's still going to be open all game, the warriors will live with him having to make shots.

They would leave Rodman unguarded

any would get crushed on the boards

Curry has been dealing with Westbrook posting him up this series and has done a stellar job on not only holding his ground but contesting shots too; there's no reason he couldn't hold his own against Harper too with the help of his teammates in case his length becomes a problem - you'd have the free safety help.

Harper is a full 3 inches taller and probably 10-20 pounds heavier than russ. Are you sure you want steph getting pounded on defense. Not to mention when they switch and put steph on jordan and pippen it's a wrap.
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Why are you only telling a small part of the story here? You only focused on rebounds, what about Draymond not even having to guard him on offense and helping out on other Bulls players when they have the ball; what about Rodman having to guard Draymond on offense and trying to chase him off the 3-pt line and out on the perimeter where he's handling the ball and helping run the offense? Late 80s/early 90s Rodman would have absolutely no problem with handling Draymond (it would be basically like looking in the mirror), but mid-30s Rodman who had lost most of his lateral quickness and spent most of his time in the box waiting for rebounds? Not so easily.

Rodman may not been at his athletic peak but he's a very smart defender, and would play off of gree nand forcing green to shoot 3s. You can always put rodman on Iggy if your worried about dray getting by him

Then you'd need to weigh into account that if Rodman was in fact guarding Draymond (which I don't think he would be as Phil would have to adjust by chucking Harper on him) that he would be further away from the basket and his rebounding advantage would noticeably shrink.

Rodman would guard iggy and sag off him and force him to make shots. He would be playing "safety" as you may say

MJ will get his. The Warriors could live with that. Especially trading those midrange actions with 3-pt attempts. Pippen's another story and I'm skeptical over how much impact he would have in the scoring department, given how he would need to deal with the help scheme the Warriors would implement (providing Rodman was still on the court) and how much gas he'd have left in the tank as the game went on when trying to defend Klay and/or Curry.

Thunder length has limited warriors 3pt shots in this series, why would it be different with the bulls length. Jordan would have no problem clamping klay, he guarded guys who run off screens like miller and ray his entire career.

Why are you ignoring all the matchup advantages the Warriors would have? Where the hell would the Bulls hide Kukoc? :jbhmm:

Why can't toni guard harrison barnes again? What is he doing in this series?
Why are you ignoring the bulls advantages?


This is not true. Only Pippen, MJ and Harper could switch on anything. Rodman and Kukoc would not be able to deal with Curry and Klay or any of the other faster Warriors guards. And their small ball lineup wouldn't be able to match them offensively either.

Rodman is still a good defender at his advance age and very smart as well. Steph can't switch everything either. He would get killed trying to guard any of the bulls player in the post forcing help and opening rebounding for dennis

This doesn't mean a cotdamn thing without the proper context. Which leads us to another problem, if this series is played in a vacuum you have to account for how long it would take for the Bulls to adjust to work out how to defend the Warriors, how long it would take for them to have success trying to defend them and how to get around trading 2s for 3s. The Warriors would be more prepared and equipped due to not only having the knowledge of the past, but also dealing with similar style teams who work within the arc.

Why do the bulls have to adjust? The warriors will have to adjust to pace and physicality

Right now the thunder are shooting 35% from 3 and their 2 best players are both shooting under 37%. So them trading 2 for 3's isn't hurting them.

The bulls as a whole have much better shooters and floor spacers than the thunder do.
 

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Ive never considered John Stockton or Shawn Kemp top 5 at any point in the league, considering Shawn Kemp top 5 is actually laughable, prime Amare >>> Kemp

Stockton at no point was a top 5 PG? :jbhmm:

Kemp was never a top 5 PF at any point? :jbhmm:

The only conclusion to deduct is that you're an imbecile. :ehh:
 

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Stockton at no point was a top 5 PG? :jbhmm:

Kemp was never a top 5 PF at any point? :jbhmm:

The only conclusion to deduct is that you're an imbecile. :ehh:
nope don't try to spin it, I clearly said top 5 players in the league. Shawn Kemp and John Stockton were never top 5 players in the league. my point stands
 
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:wtf: Malone and Stockton didn't exist? Payton and Kemp? :camby:

Low key, Charles Barkley & Kevin Johnson.

You could make the argument that KJ is the most underrated PG in NBA history.

He was basically putting up the same numbers as Isiah Thomas(Pistons) back in the early 90's

He averaged 22 & 11 with a fg% over 50 for 3 straight years

Only other pg to do that was Isiah, but KJ did it with better efficiency
 

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nope don't try to spin it, I clearly said top 5 players in the league. Shawn Kemp and John Stockton were never top 5 players in the league. my point stands

John stockton, who made all nba 1st team multiple times was never considered top 5.

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John stockton, who made all nba 1st team multiple times was never considered top 5.

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Name 1 year in which youd consider him top 5..with jordan, shaq, barkley, pippen, hakeem, etc..i dont see a year where john would be conssidered a top 5 player, surely wasnt top 5 when he played jordan
 

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Name 1 year in which youd consider him top 5..with jordan, shaq, barkley, pippen, hakeem, etc..i dont see a year where john would be conssidered a top 5 player, surely wasnt top 5 when he played jordan

anywhere from 91-95 he was the best PG at the time and at worse top 8.
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
The bull have a better small ball lineup than the warriors because like the thunder everyone is big and athletic and can "switch" anything.
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Kukoc isn't switching onto Curry, stop it :mjlol:

And the Thunder are bigger than the Bulls were, especially that small lineup you're trying to talk about for the Bulls -


Thunder
6'3"
6'7"
7'0"
6'10"
7'0"


Bulls
6'6"
6'6"
6'7"
6'7"
6'11" (Kukoc)
 

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Kukoc isn't switching onto Curry, stop it :mjlol:

And the Thunder are bigger than the Bulls were, especially that small lineup you're trying to talk about for the Bulls -


Thunder
6'3"
6'7"
7'0"
6'10"
7'0"


Bulls
6'6"
6'6"
6'7"
6'7"
6'11" (Kukoc)


If steven adams can do a decent job switching onto curry why can't kukoc who's better at moving laterally. I'm not saying he's not going to get cooked, but at the very least he can bother his shot by being 6'11.

Also i was comparing the bulls small ball to the warriors not the thunder. Both teams are still bigger than the warriors lineup

Bulls
6'6"
6'6"
6'7"
6'7"
6'11" (Kukoc)

Warriors
6'7" (Green)
6'8" (Barnes)
6'6" (Iggy)
6"7" (Klay)
6'3" (Curry)
 

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Now who else wanna fukk with Hollywood Court?
If steven adams can do a decent job switching onto curry why can't kukoc who's better at moving laterally. I'm not saying he's not going to get cooked, but at the very least he can bother his shot by being 6'11.

Also i was comparing the bulls small ball to the warriors not the thunder. Both teams are still bigger than the warriors lineup

Bulls
6'6"
6'6"
6'7"
6'7"
6'11" (Kukoc)

Warriors
6'7" (Green)
6'8" (Barnes)
6'6" (Iggy)
6"7" (Klay)
6'3" (Curry)

Just because Adams can do it doesn't mean Kukoc can :wtf:

You stay making up shyt, it's ridiculous, how do you know he moved better laterally? Anthony Davis moves better laterally than either one of these guys and he couldn't stay with Curry, you know why? Because he didn't have an elite shot blocker like Ibaka in the paint or a 7'0" SF to rotate over and contest shots.


Plenty of other teams were bigger than the Warriors as well, you have two absolutely dreadful scorers in that lineup that don't need to be accounted for (Rodman / Harper)
 
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