Lupe Fiasco vs Elzhi

[Roland Coltrane]

We can't have even handed discussions about Hip-Hop as a genre because
The Booth harbors extremists and trolls who could give a fukk about Hip-Hop
outside of their absolute favorites.

Anyone who legit loves flows, schemes and the art of writing raps can't sit here
and tell me Elzhi isn't seeing Lupe in any category. Elzhi is clearly a student of Nas, Rakim,
G. Rap, Lord finesse and so on.

An insanely skillful emcee not only understands the literary element of Hip-Hop but the
musical element of emceeing and how flow is really just another way to say "Rhythm"
and the manipulation of it.

Elzhi is legit incredible at times and I'm disappointed that brehs would say
Elzhi isn't nice. I mean Elzhi was tearing shyt down when Lupe was still
taking breaths mid verse on Food & Liquor.

The Booth can really be a shyt show. Smh.

breh when I first heard this in 2001 I was




then I copped the autographed copy of Witness My Growth from UGHH a few years later and this song had me



that beat too



breh been ridiculously nice for a loooooooong time

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Sonically Lupe’s best albums vs Elzhi’s best, Lupe’s music is more ambitious. From the flows, to the cadences, production quality and variety

this is just a matter of personal taste and aesthetics breh

I feel like Lupe raps over a lot of wack shyt but that's just me

as far as that being the style he's been rocking since Slum Village, I'd say Detroit, that Dilla extended fam clique in particular(Black Milk, Young RJ, Kariem Riggins etc..) have their own distinct sound and I don't begrudge him for sticking to that sound.

all change is not necessarily evolving, sometimes it's just change. and not all change is good. A lot of these cats who are still in the game like say a OC, Ras Kass, have essentially stuck to a Boom Bap template, even if it is working with newer producers like Apollo Brown

this is my third edit btw

I'd just like to add that the production on the Preface is one of the best produced albums front to back I've ever heard
Black Milk put in some serious work on that album and "ambition", "variety" and whatnnot really don't mean all that much to me when somebody is purposely trying to come off as esoteric, I just don't mess with it man. And I say this as a HUGE fan of the Juggaknots but for them I feel like some of their beats, while esoteric or not as accessible, serve as a very good canvas for Breeze Brewin

 

[NoHalfWay]

@NoHalfWay what u think

They’re both dope. Dumb It Down woulda probably been a better side to side analysis with Egocentric tho

 

[NoHalfWay]

this is just a matter of personal taste and aesthetics breh

I feel like Lupe raps over a lot of wack shyt but that's just me

Cuz he has.

But one could argue that this Wave album has better production than any Elzhi solo

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Cuz he has.

But one could argue that this Wave album has better production than any Elzhi solo

not better than The Preface my g. who gets an album of pretty much ALL Black Milk beats and does it justice. Who else besides else could do it justice?

 

[NoHalfWay]

not better than The Preface my g. who gets an album of pretty much ALL Black Milk beats and does it justice. Who else besides else could do it justice?

Yeah but it’s really apples to oranges my guy

 

[Zero]

Let's really keep it bloody: Elzhi nice but he was NEVER all this extra sauce you puttin on him.

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Yeah but it’s really apples to oranges my guy

if it's apples in oranges then why go out of your way to....

you know what? nvm

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Let's really keep it bloody: Elzhi nice but he was NEVER all this extra sauce you puttin on him.

ok

 

[NoHalfWay]

if it's apples in oranges then why go out of your way to....

you know what? nvm

Because when I say apples to oranges I was more referring to our personal preferences rather than the artists themselves being incomparable

 

[Roland Coltrane]

Not a huge Lupe fan and not a connaisseur of El's material but my ears tell me that El is more well rounded and easier to get into.I like Lupe's attention to detail and conceptual thinking when making records but it does less for the soul then when El commits to a concept or evokes a feeling.Simply put Lupe feels more technical but El makes you feel more so i have to go with El but i'll be the first to say that i'm not an expert on both

check your inbox, if anybody else wants me to pass the mustard holla atcha boy

 

[Ziploc]

check your inbox, if anybody else wants me to pass the mustard holla atcha boy

 

[Roland Coltrane]

.... lupe fiasco is a 1000 miles ahead of 95% of rappers. His metaphors, similies, and concepts are top knotch. Elzhi has one if the best flows in rap but Lupe also does and can do everything elzhi does but it's not the other way around.

only acknowledge Elzhi's "flows" brehs when he's one of the best writers there is

 

[Pete Wrigley]

This is a good ass debate. It's Lupe for me but I can understand anyone saying Elzhi.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

.... lupe fiasco is a 1000 miles ahead of 95% of rappers. His metaphors, similies, and concepts are top knotch. Elzhi has one if the best flows in rap but Lupe also does and can do everything elzhi does but it's not the other way around.

I would have to agree with this. I don't think there's a flow in existence that lupe hasn't mastered. Dude can pull off any style. Just look at this new album. Dude is rapping completely different on pretty much every track. It's not simply about the lyrics, it's also about your versatility and how well you ride a beat. And I think Lupe has elzhi beat in those categories. So considering they're both pretty much equals off pure lyricism alone.....as overall MC's, you gotta give the edge to lupe. But I love elzhi. Dude is a GOAT.