Main difference between Aaliyah and Beyonce

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but if you don't think Beyonce could sing her under a table, y'all got wax buildup in your ears from the '90s that might need to get washed out.

But Aaliyah died pretty young though.. She didn't have time to improve her voice.... Remember when Beyonce was young? She couldn't sing a fukking lick back then neither. I suggest some of y'all go listen to Destiny's Child's old cd's. *kanye shrug*
 

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Monica had one of the biggest songs of all time (The Boy is Mine) And her album only sold a modest 2 million copies.. Aaliyah sold that SAME amount with NO major hit single & Brandy had the same damn song and her album sold 5 million +.... That speaks volumes..

A 'modest' 2 million? Anything over 2 was for the top stars back then... she was getting outsold by Brandy, Mariah, Janet, Whitney 'n them- but look at the people I'm naming. It ain't like she was being outsold by Mya, Kelly Price, and Faith Evans. Monica had major hits, bigger than many of Aaliyah's for that matter.
 

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A 'modest' 2 million? Anything over 2 was for the top stars back then... she was getting outsold by Brandy, Mariah, Janet, Whitney 'n them- but look at the people I'm naming. It ain't like she was being outsold by Mya, Kelly Price, and Faith Evans. Monica had major hits, bigger than many of Aaliyah's for that matter.

I'm not saying 2 million is bad, but she had one of the BIGGEST hits of all time, she should have sold wayy more. How did Aaliyah catch up? :russ::russ:

Besides The song with Brandy, Try Again was bigger than any of Monica's songs.
 

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I'm not saying 2 million is bad, but she had one of the BIGGEST hits of all time, she should have sold wayy more. How did Aaliyah catch up? :russ::russ:

Besides The song with Brandy, Try Again was bigger than any of Monica's songs.

Actually, the Monica album with that song on there did 3 million... and had two other #1's 'The First Night' and 'Angel Of Mine'...

Until 'Try Again' in 2000, Aaliyah never had a Hot 100 #1... by then, Monica had three in a row.

As far as why her album didn't sell what Brandy's sold... I don't know exactly, BUT it might have something to do with the fact "The Boy is Mine" was on both Brandy's and Monica's albums... but Brandy's album came out a month before Monica's did.

I'm not saying Aaliyah wasn't a big star herself... but Monica wasn't a "flop" like you said. It's not like Aaliyah just blew past Monica the way you're sayin' she did.
 

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But Aaliyah died pretty young though.. She didn't have time to improve her voice.... Remember when Beyonce was young? She couldn't sing a fukking lick back then neither. I suggest some of y'all go listen to Destiny's Child's old cd's. *kanye shrug*

Example of when Beyonce couldnt sing a lick.
 

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Actually, the Monica album with that song on there did 3 million... and had two other #1's 'The First Night' and 'Angel Of Mine'...

Until 'Try Again' in 2000, Aaliyah never had a Hot 100 #1... by then, Monica had three in a row.

As far as why her album didn't sell what Brandy's sold... I don't know exactly, BUT it might have something to do with the fact "The Boy is Mine" was on both Brandy's and Monica's albums... but Brandy's album came out a month before Monica's did.

I'm not saying Aaliyah wasn't a big star herself... but Monica wasn't a "flop" like you said. It's not like Aaliyah just blew past Monica the way you're sayin' she did.

The album did two million. Heres the proof.
2,016,000, "The Boy Is Mine" (1998)

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So Monica had two bigger hit songs but still couldn't outsell Aaliyah, who had more smaller hits? (album sales matter more than singles)

Not to mention, Aaliyah and Brandy had an acting career to fall back on. Monica had ____________?

Monica wasn't a complete flop, but you puttin her on a pedestal.
 

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The album did two million. Heres the proof.
2,016,000, "The Boy Is Mine" (1998)

Music News, Reviews, Articles, Information, News Online & Free Music | Billboard.com


So Monica had two bigger hit songs but still couldn't outsell Aaliyah, who had more smaller hits? (album sales matter more than singles)

Not to mention, Aaliyah and Brandy had an acting career to fall back on. Monica had ____________?

Monica wasn't a complete flop, but you puttin her on a pedestal.

:smh:

It's not even an issue of puttin' her on a pedestal... it's an issue of you saying she was a flop, which was far from true. You said it like she was some middle-of-the-road singer who just happened to have a few hits, when it's not that hard to search and find out quite the contrary. Monica and Aaliyah were pretty much on the same level all the way up until Monica was off the scene and Aaliyah had that big year in 2000. Before that, you can line up those singles, the albums, look at Billboard, and they were neck-and-neck. Aaliyah wasn't as big a mainstream success as Brandy was... she was clearly in the top spot as far as R&B female singers in that age group. Monica and Aaliyah alternated for #2.
 

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It's not even an issue of puttin' her on a pedestal... it's an issue of you saying she was a flop, which was far from true. You said it like she was some middle-of-the-road singer who just happened to have a few hits, when it's not that hard to search and find out quite the contrary. Monica and Aaliyah were pretty much on the same level all the way up until Monica was off the scene and Aaliyah had that big year in 2000. Before that, you can line up those singles, the albums, look at Billboard, and they were neck-and-neck. Aaliyah wasn't as big a mainstream success as Brandy was... she was clearly in the top spot as far as R&B female singers in that age group. Monica and Aaliyah alternated for #2.

People brush past this point though. After 2000, where were Brandy & Monica :pachaha: Within like 2 years, it went from Aaliyah, Brandy & Monica to Aaliyah, Alicia & Ashanti.

Them hoes were MIA after the 90s for the most part :manny:
 

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Actually, the Monica album with that song on there did 3 million... and had two other #1's 'The First Night' and 'Angel Of Mine'...

Until 'Try Again' in 2000, Aaliyah never had a Hot 100 #1... by then, Monica had three in a row.

As far as why her album didn't sell what Brandy's sold... I don't know exactly, BUT it might have something to do with the fact "The Boy is Mine" was on both Brandy's and Monica's albums... but Brandy's album came out a month before Monica's did.

I'm not saying Aaliyah wasn't a big star herself... but Monica wasn't a "flop" like you said. It's not like Aaliyah just blew past Monica the way you're sayin' she did.


you are forgetting,...like usual.

that aaliyah was in trouble and lost marketing exposure and saturation.

from the r kelly edgy content connection.
plus later content connection and subsequent underage marriage.

which eliminated her legs to draw.

as well as monica and brandy, in a sustained level or manner

brandy was the accepted mother's group black teen female rnb artist in pop culture as well. whereas monica was the accepted anti-thesis edgier content nemesis to brandy's syrupy draw and tv star appeal.
as monica talked about pms. with a more ms jones like adult draw.

aaliyah, was the raunchy street.
mama groups don't wanna hear that mess, during the day/primetime time slot. that arose from the master of twelve play freak r kelly.

aaliyah was like the ghetto hood adina howard in the making draw perception wise. which came from r kelly's draw.

aaliyah never sold a lot because of the marriage fiasco.

plus the dwindled draw of not working with kelly, publically.
plus, the long term resolution in the press on the underage marriage thing.

when everyone in chicago knew aaliyah and r kelly were an item in 94.

beyounce was never on aaliyah's level when it came to draw as a solo.
nor, in quality of music.

if beyounce was,...she and dc would not have gotten dropped.
plus, would not have had to struggle and need sales spike era bought records on the second album to be relevent.

plus, when they disbanded the first incarnation of dc. female fans turned on her and survivor her first foray into writing fell on def ears as well.
as this is how ashanti's draw got more burn. as ashanti's was pr as the better songwriter worker than dc and beyounce as a solo artist.

of which neither beyounce or ashanti.

were on aaliyah's level as a star or quality song maker.

if beyounce was on aaliyah's level.

it would be way more posted older beyounce songs.
plus recent ones to match aaliyah's dominant run of singles And soundtrack movie money records.
that had youtube links to them to express the sentiment of her body of work incomparison to aaliyah as well.

plus real talk, beyounce never was seen as havin sex appeal.
till she bit aaliyah on the beach aesthetic in rock the boat.

for her beyounce dances in the sand wack as fukk vid.

also,..beyounce could never dance till she worked exclusively at it as a solo artist.

of which she still lacks sex appeal and is stiff as fukk.

dudes like how beyounce looks. she does not have come hither sex appeal.

that aaliyah had or embodied as a draw.

as aaliyah was able to swoon a grown as r kelly and adult market, as an underage talent in baggy gear.

beyounce is like tyra moore of rnb,..nice to look at but not someone you like cause you know they are sexy, or exude sexiness.
aaliyah was sexy in baggy jeans, had sex/street appeal, dance moves and was believeable on camera.

with way better music and production every step of the way.

aaliyah was produced and written by the most innovative team of the late nineties gen. who were from the past previous best written and produced group from the mca way of thought, jodeci.
plus, just to start twelve play era r kelly, As well.

dc was not on aaliyah's level till the third relaunch with kandy burris writing.
that was a lift off of tlc's scrub man hater club aesthetic.

which falsely drove them to diamond,..in the sales spike era.

so real talk,..anybody saying beyounce is a liar.

as easily aaliyah, came from the pedigree of the best rnb in the past twenty years.

plus was glady knight's neice.

a child hood star that also outdrew and performed with more national accolades than beyounce in girl tyme as a child as well.

as girl tyme did not sing as well as aaliyah then, either.
as they were more a biv10 rap and bullshyt dance troupe to aaliyah.
that had beyounce as an out of breath tboz/tlc frontwoman. aided by kelly, and latavia backing her up for punch.

nikkaz trying to change history.
straight out the jayz revisionist playbook.
plus apply rap aesthetics to rnb. to hold up their wack, do not know history Ass arguements.

how is beyounce better when historically.
she did not even have the best team of writers/producers, behind her.

nor was she more talented than aaliyah as a solo vocalist at all.

plus had to ramp up as a singer.
whom also just had the frontwoman role on some diana/supremes shyt.

when beyounce has even said kelly sings and has a more powerful voice than her.

beyounce is a ramped up good singer now.

like alicia keys had to be ramped up.
neither were on aaliyah's level as teen stars.

plus neither had convinceability to get over with adult audiences like aaliyah as well.

if they did,..they would have been out as solo artist with a green light.

like aaliyah, had...not getting dropped from powerful labels at the time.

needing a second chance and further grooming.

you can go look up the star search and old demos.

to see who had more talent and why aaliyah was better and more successful early on as a solo teen than beyounce.

plus had a bigger string of hits.

without going pop,..plus the segueway between Her albums was larger because she charted hugely with movie money hits.

so she never needed another album, like beyounce.

has to do to stay relevent using the kiss record release formula.






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