Main difference between Aaliyah and Beyonce

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a bigger overall string of hits? :beli:

Brandy didn't have a string of hits on this calibre until she dropped her second album which was led by a duet with Monica. No one can deny the impact of "The Boy Is Mine" when it dropped, and both Brandy and Monica both benefited huge from it. But between them, But you can't compare any "Brandy" singles with Aaliyah's rendition of "At Your Best." It's funny, I did a google search looking for opening week sales and found this quote on Brandy's self-titled debut


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Now here's facts: Neither "Brandy" nor "Miss Thang" had a higher peak on the Billboard Charts than "Age Ain't Nothin." Only "Brandy" outsold it. Brandy ATE off of her duet with Monica and went 4x platinum with Never Say Never....One In A Million still outsold The Boy Is Mine.

Now here is where I address your BOLD lie when you say "lets not act like that last album she dropped wasnt shoved to the side before she died." To this I say...STOP THE fukkING LIES. Aaliyah dropped to critical acclaim, dropped at number 2 at the Billboard charts, and sold 200,000 copies first week...most things she'd NEVER done before in her career. Add on the fact that she was already in a movie that was more widely recognized than Moesha (and by that I mean outside the hood :flabbynsick:), was cast in an important role in BOTH Matrix flicks...yeah, u should probably stfu breh.

Oh, and Full Moon (Brandy's third album) only sold 156k first week. Never Say Never didn't even sell 200k out the gate, and that's the biggest album out of all three artists.

So I'm sorry, I have to laugh at the notion that Monica was #2 in the mainstream....I'm sorry, I have to laugh at the notion that a singer who would be acting in one of the biggest movie trilogies would fail to be bigger than two R&B singers who couldn't do anything beyond black sitcoms and awful tv movies (unless we're counting I Still Know What You Did Last Summer).

I think you're confusing what some ppl are saying. No one is saying Aaliyah's career was some unmeasurable feat that only Beyonce has passed. But to act like she wasn't something special until she died. Stop it slime. More than anyone else mentioned in the thread, she had lasting material. The fact that nikkas will go 20 years and still WANT to listen to shyt Aaliyah released in her first two albums is something you probably can't say about Brandy or Monica (but you definitely can't say about Beyonce)

You know what's interesting.....Aaliyah did 200,000 first week, 330,000 if you counting world wide on her last joint. Brandy nor Monica ever did that :mjpls: :youngsabo:
 

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Aaliyah was just hitting her prime at the time of her untimely death. Beyonce's music to me has always been cookie cutter, and uninspired. I remember Are You That Somebody being the hottest song in the summer. You couldn't turn on the TV or the radio without hearing that song.
 

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Aaliyah was just hitting her prime at the time of her untimely death. Beyonce's music to me has always been cookie cutter, and uninspired. I remember Are You That Somebody being the hottest song in the summer. You couldn't turn on the TV or the radio without hearing that song.

You can't front on this record....at all. That shyt still hot :mindblown:

 
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Aaliyah was just hitting her prime at the time of her untimely death. Beyonce's music has always been cookie cutter, and uninspired. I remember Are You That Somebody being the hottest song in the summer. You couldn't turn on the TV or the radio without hearing that song.

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it is a lot of nikkaz in this thread. who were not cognitive of any of the actual events as they occurred. talking as if they were able to even form a coherent sentence. let alone be aware and on point about the cultural music climate.

just stop it,...
this thread is full of naysayers who obviously were not old enough.
plus have not educated themselves fully on the sign of the times.


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it is a lot of nikkaz in this thread. who were not cognitive of any of the actual events as they occurred. talking as if they were able to even form a coherent sentence. let alone be aware and on point about the cultural music climate.

just stop it,...
this thread is full of naysayers who obviously were not old enough.
plus have not educated themselves fully on the sign of the times.


art barr

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Aaliyah was getting outsold by Monica and Brandy, not to mention the older stars in the game.

Right now Monica and Brandy aren't close to what Beyonce is doing right now, so not sure how Aaliyah would be bigger than Beyonce then or now.

Pulling up old posts and....:what: I already addressed this but it's funny seeing nikkas go unchecked for being wrong. The only time Aaliyah got outsold is when Monica and Brandy teamed up for a hit. And even then only Brandy really outsold her. Monica has never outsold Aaliyah in her life...her highest selling album is the only time she ever outsold I Care 4 You (a posthumous album with like 3 new tracks). Brandy only ever outsold Aaliyah after The Boy Is Mine dropped as a single with Never Say Never.

It's funny seeing the nikkas who claim "revisionist history" but revise history to downplay what Aaliyah did
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-lol @ dude trying to say that brandy's 1st big hit was "the boy is mine". im f**kin done.

-aalyiah's album sales for her 3rd joint(i cant even remember the name of it) were indeed dissappointing. THERE WAS TALK OF THIS BACK THEN. DONT LET THE SALES-SPIKE NUMBERS 1ST WEEK NUMBERS FOOL YOU. and even with the sales-spike, she still wouldnt have sold near the amount of the 1st 2 joints if she hadnt died. dude said it all when he posted the numbers from the week of her death. thanks for proving my point lil buddy.

-lol @ dude saying monica's album in '03 wasnt popular. fugg outta here. it was more popular than aalyiah's last chit, at least until she died.

-and monica is still poppin til this day, whereas aaliyah would be forced to make pop music to stay "relevant" just like usher.

-to the other dude, monica was a bit more mainstream than aalyiah in the mix of the '90s. monica was getting more love from events like soul train and she was getting nods at more mainstream events where aaliyah would barely get any(if at all) like the AMAs, grammys, etc.

-the difference being that monica is a legit singer and brandy was a good enough vocalist. aalyiah was moreso a studio gangster. most of what im saying is stuff that was understood.

-so even if aalyiah outsold monica(if thats even true), then sure as hell nobody noticed. its just like with rap. its all about sales. my dudes D.R.S. outsold alot of niccas and they had no type of footing when it comes to status in the game.
-i find it funny how the same people that are trying to prop aalyiah up to new levels are some of the same folks that are always wondering "what happened to mainstream r&b"? nicca YOU happened. lol.
 

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Homeboy Runny-Ray said:
-aalyiah's album sales for her 3rd joint(i cant even remember the name of it) were indeed dissappointing. THERE WAS TALK OF THIS BACK THEN. DONT LET THE SALES-SPIKE NUMBERS 1ST WEEK NUMBERS FOOL YOU. and even with the sales-spike, she still wouldnt have sold near the amount of the 1st 2 joints if she hadnt died.


And yet it was certified gold 3 weeks faster than her previous album, 2 weeks before she died :heh:
 
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stuff like 'we run the world' is all to attract the rihanna euro pop dance market.

If you cant hear this, then fair enough.

Beyonce even started acting slutty and doing promiscuous videos like rihanna's hoe ass.

Jay cost B a lot of shine.

:skip:


:usure:
It was Rihanna or B teaching Rihanna how to make that guap?

Oh & TLC>>>Destiny's Child. Just to start a new conversation.

:pachaha:
 
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Beyoncé featuring Sean Paul - Baby Boy ft. Sean Paul - YouTube

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It was Rihanna or B teaching Rihanna how to make that guap?

Oh & TLC>>>Destiny's Child. Just to start a new conversation.

:pachaha:

This video is not even slutty, check 'single ladies' 'best i never had' and a few more. She's in bra and panties doing sex moves ... singing about 'big ego'

then she changed to that euro dance pop sh1t, Rihanna is a huge huge europe star all her singles are smash hits. Rihanna is a hoe, B had to keep up. Imitating Lady Gaga and Rih is not cool, but she's doing ok but she should be doing 10x better.

Jay kinda messed B's whole star appeal up.
 

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nikka aaliyah changed rnb.

first with r kelly.
then, again with the left over refugee's from devante prison corps production camps.

beyounce never changrd rnb like aaliyah.
nikka, puh-lease......

aaliyah's shyt is used in every record that has a relevent cool chick signing on it in genrr now.

stop playing,...nobody was even checking for no, no, no, no, no.
before clef gave an r kelly style remix of back n forth to it.


gtfoh, son!!


art barr

I sure wasn't but for all the stuff made about weclef not being a legit MC, he made that record. I think personally Clef is an underated hypeman/collaborator.

:win: post by the way.
 

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-nobody said "The Boy Is Mine" was her first hit...but it damn sure was her biggest hit

-Aaliyah sold more out the gate off her self-titled debut than Brandy or Monica ever did

-After the Storm is actually Monica's fourth album, and was only conceived after the single for All Eyez On Me flopped. Even still, "one year and promotion and she couldn't go 2x platinum..." damn didn't you say that :whew:

all the rest of what you wrote :beli: Like I said...you'sa troll. You saying shyt that's not based on fact and arguing like it's true. You couldn't even be bothered to look up album sales but wanna talk about who was more popular or who was more successful. I'm not even gonna take you seriously breh
 
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nikka aaliyah changed rnb.

first with r kelly.
then, again with the left over refugee's from devante prison corps production camps.

beyounce never changrd rnb like aaliyah.
nikka, puh-lease......

aaliyah's shyt is used in every record that has a relevent cool chick signing on it in genrr now.

stop playing,...nobody was even checking for no, no, no, no, no.
before clef gave an r kelly style remix of back n forth to it.


gtfoh, son!!


art barr

:ohhh:

:steviej:
 

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Please just lest this thread die. At this point the back and forth just ain't productive.
 
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