Mayweather Better Than Muhammad Ali....So He Says

[DosCadenaz]

It depends on how it's framed. Floyd didn't fight Pac at his best. He didn't fight Margarito. The fight didn't happen with Mosley until many years after it should have. He didn't fight Paul Williams.

Now it's all about perspective. In retrospect some don't think much of Williams and Margarito but at the time they were contenders people clamored for the fight. You've also gotta remember Floyd took off for a couple of years and he only fights twice a year anyway so obviously he's not gonna he taking on all comers. He doesn't have the need or motivation to do so.

Don't get me wrong, I personally think Floyd wins all of those fights, I'm just making the point that there were definitely fights left on the table. But you can essentially say that about any fighter in the last few eras - hell, even a Bernard Hopkins who we know doesn't duck anybody missed out on a couple of fights for various reasons. And also I'm not saying its Floyds fault he didn't have these fights, I'm just saying that just like with anybody else there's always going to be questions of his resume if you seek them out.

He shoulda fought cotto in 05

 

[Master Teacher]

I have a problem with a smaller fighter like Floyd saying he better than Ali, Tyson, Frazier for 1 reason.

He wouldn't beat them if he fought them i don't care if he retires 50-0.

dumbest shyt I ever heard

most heavyweights fighters aren't coordinated enough to perform boxing techniques as well as the smaller fighters

Tyson should be anywhere near a conversation about greatest anything, Floyd would never lose to bum cac no matter how old he gets

if Ray Leonard could've made weight at heavyweight he would beat mike tyson

Ali was great because he was a heavyweight that fought like a middleweight, which is why he was unbeatable in his early 20's, once he lost his athletic advantage he became beatable

George Foreman is better than Ali to me, yes Ali beat him, because Foreman was giving something in his water that made him weak according to his book, and Ali would not have one a rematch against me

Foreman came back has an old man and captured the heavyweight crown beating up young guys, and he had become a more skilled boxer at an old age, if he had those skills when he was younger no way ali would've beaten him

He won the heavyweight belt at the age of 45 twenty years after he lost to Ali

If Ali could box as good as mayweather he would not have lost to a fighter like Joe Fraizer, who was a simple fighter

nobody ever talks about anyone Fraiser fought besides Ali

ali has been in the greatest most legendary fights, that doesn't make him better, it just means he has more edge of your seat performances

Gatti Ward trilogy are regarded as "great fights" none of them are better than Floyd, just because he doesn't have a back forth slug fest on his resume doesn't make them better

the fact he is smaller makes his accomplishments even greater because he's moved up in weight facing bigger stronger men while winning even as he nears the age of 40 fighting against younger guys, something Ali never did, he never beat the younger guys, Larry Holmes destroyed Ali when he was 36, Floyd easily beat Canelo who is bigger, younger, so young he could be mayweather's son

Floyd is only comp for the best ever is ray robinson, who killed a man with a left hook and has 170 something wins

but he was 40-0 when he took his first lost, that's how hard it is to stay unbeaten, and I could never see Floyd losing to guy like Jake Lamotta, don't see, Ray Robinson beat him multiple times after his first lost, but still, that was a lost in his prime
If Floyd fought Jake Lamotta today they would say he was a cherry picker and lamotta's style was tailored for floyd

 

[MJ Truth]

You can pick apart a lot of people's resume like that. Paul Williams and Margarito aren't "legend makers" in my eyes. Having them on the resume adds nothing. I think Floyd's number of world champions that he has fought out weighs not fighting those two.

That's not the point though. The point is there are guys missing off of Floyd's resume.

 

[brick james]

Floyd is only comp for the best ever is ray robinson, who killed a man with a left hook and has 170 something wins

but he was 40-0 when he took his first lost, that's how hard it is to stay unbeaten, and I could never see Floyd losing to guy like Jake Lamotta, don't see, Ray Robinson beat him multiple times after his first lost, but still, that was a lost in his prime
If Floyd fought Jake Lamotta today they would say he was a cherry picker and lamotta's style was tailored for floyd

So you taking Floyd over SRR? We are talking about the man who lost to Jake Lamotta, and then fought him 3 weeks later and beat the shyt out of him. we're comparing a man who fought 10 times in like 7 years to a guy who fought Jake Lamotta 2 times in 3 weeks, and even managed to beat somebody in between those 2 fights. This man's legendary, and I don't think we'll ever see someone close to that in our lifetimes.

let me clarify: skillwise Floyd's obviously better, he is perfecting a style that SRR made famous, but we're not comparing skills, we're comparing legacy, and SRR's is unrivaled

 

[Truth200]

@Master Teacher are you honestly telling me Floyd would beat Ali, Foreman or Tyson?

 

[Master Teacher]

So you taking Floyd over SRR? We are talking about the man who lost to Jake Lamotta, and then fought him 3 weeks later and beat the shyt out of him. we're comparing a man who fought 10 times in like 7 years to a guy who fought Jake Lamotta 2 times in 3 weeks, and even managed to beat somebody in between those 2 fights. This man's legendary, and I don't think we'll ever see someone close to that in our lifetimes.

let me clarify: skillwise Floyd's obviously better, he is perfecting a style that SRR made famous, but we're not comparing skills, we're comparing legacy, and SRR's is unrivaled

He had all those fights against cab drivers

the term comes from the fact actually cab drivers would fight boxers to basically job against them to get paid, they would just take an ass whipping to be paid

you ain't name nobody but Jake Lamotta

how can you watch any jake lamotta film and think he would be a match for Floyd at anything, floyd would beat the hell outta jake lamotta

 

[Master Teacher]

@Master Teacher are you honestly telling me Floyd would beat Ali, Foreman or Tyson?

Where did i say that, I said heavyweights aren't as coordinated as the smaller fighters, which is why Ali dominated when he was younger because he had the movement of a smaller man

Tyson lost to Busta Douglas, so is Busta Douglas better than him, by your logic yes

Mike Tyson can't don't half the shyt mayweather can do, if Mayweather was a heavyweight he would kill Mike Tyson

a heavyweight that can fight like mayweather would be the god level bad motherfukkaka

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

@Master Teacher are you honestly telling me Floyd would beat Ali, Foreman or Tyson?

That WOAT badge is there for a reason.

 

[brick james]

He had all those fights against cab drivers

the term comes from the fact actually cab drivers would fight boxers to basically job against them to get paid, they would just take an ass whipping to be paid

you ain't name nobody but Jake Lamotta

how can you watch any jake lamotta film and think he would be a match for Floyd at anything, floyd would beat the hell outta jake lamotta

hold up breh, we ain't even mention jake lamotta weighed in at 16 lb's heavier and SRR still fought him...

Floyd woulda beat the hell out of jake lamotta, what's your point? We're not asking who would win in a fight between SRR and floyd, I assumed we were comparing legacies

 

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[TheNig]

Ray fought at Lightweight, Welterweight, Middleweight, and fought for the Light Heavyweight title before he passed out on that hot ass ring.

 

[Champ_KW]

That's not the point though. The point is there are guys missing off of Floyd's resume.

That's everybody though. In 67 fights Hagler really only has 2 names the general public know. Having them on there or not, changes nothing about the ones he did fight. I can't imagine Floyd's legacy being in question cause "legacy maker" Keith Thurman was left off after this fight. It's always someone.....as long as he fought his share of world champs, he's good.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

question the mentality of a guy who's 47-0 and worth $400M brehs.

VS who tho???

Ali out here fighting everyone.. legendary fighters... multiple times... not to mention missing 3 years of his career where he could have racked up more fights... 15 round fights... where he actually knocked people out


mayweather out here fighting no names who have zero career before they got there and zero after the fight is over... last of them he knocked out was a hugging ass victor ortiz

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

winner's mentality
people too busy worrying about kissing ass and giving generic answers that they don't push themselves
i remember when eli said he was the best qb in the league some years back ppl clowned him like he was supposed to bow down to brady and his brother
he ended up winning the superbowl the same year

the second floyd says ali is better than him is the second he puts a limit of his potential greatness
whether you agree that hes better or not is irrevelant, its that belief in himself that got him to where he is today

it's one thing to say i'm the best

it's another thing to point out faults in someone elses career, and shyt on their whole legacy, while saying you're the best



are you better than ali... i think i am


is much different than


hell yea i'm better.. he was fighting bums, and his greatest fight was some dumbass bullshyt.. and also the shyt he went through in actual life, with white people in the 50s,60s,70s was easier than what i go through in 2015... cause of twitter

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

VS who tho???

Ali out here fighting everyone.. legendary fighters... multiple times... not to mention missing 3 years of his career where he could have racked up more fights... 15 round fights... where he actually knocked people out


mayweather ou ere fighting no names who have zero career before they got there and zero after the fight is over... last of them he knocked out was a hugging ass victor ortiz

ur not too bright... way to miss the point champ