"Men between 21-35 need to be working 60+ hours a week "- Kevin Samuel's

[Blessings]

I know a lot of people in tech(myself inlcuded) on average doing 10-30 hours of “real work”. The hours/time is dependent on industry. That’s the result of doing the work on the front in terms of school/internship/entry or junior based roles.

By stacking early(whether its 2 full time tech jobs or 1 full time + 1 parr time or consulting/project based on the side)…one can retire early

 

[⠀X ⠀]

I agree, but you should be working those extra hours with a purpose.

if you’re working a second, part time job, then you should be saving to invest in an asset.

Better yet, you should have a side hustle that fan eventually turn into a full time business.

 

[tuckgod]

Why work 60+ hours when society is likely to collapse in 10 - 20 years?

I hate how much we've rendered ourselves to become capitalist bootlickers and puppets. We should be trying to tear down this system.

Bum babble.

 

[DreadBrown]

People in here defending their right to be lazy

You dudes deserve the bare minimum in life

This thread is embarrassing

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

The Arab, South Korean, or Dominican-owned Harlem bodega is usually open 18 hours a day, seven days a week (not including prep and shutdown hours).

18hr X 7d = 126 work hours per week.

Yet, the advocacy from many in this thread, is that legally "working" more than 40 hrs a week is essentially tantamount to physically and mentally abusive hard labor.

But then, we wonder why so few of the local businesses in our communities are owned and operated by us. Make it make sense.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

America is the most overworked country in the developed world. We’ve been on a race to the bottom for decades. People fought for our right to work only 40 hours a week once upon a time. But it seems like since the 08’ recession, employers have had the upper hand and treat it like if you don’t want to work 60+ hours a week, we will find someone who will tomorrow. Americans idolize the European lifestyles, but don’t actually realize how much more laidback they are compared to us. They eat dinner for like three hours, take long ass lunch breaks, have weeks of paid vacation time, get paid more on average, work much less hours etc. etc.

If you working 60+ hours a week at UPS or FedEx, you trying to kill yourself physically. Yeah, you can make $150k a year after three years as a UPS driver, but they working you 12 hours a day, six days a week in all types of weather. UPS is hiring, always for a reason. Even something like working sales 60 hours a week will have you on suicide watch.

The Dali Lama once said what confuses him about mankind is that man trades his health for wealth and uses his money from working to recuperate his broken body. There’s a reason why many people die in America within five years of retiring. Especially in this era where pensions magically disappear or are cut, wages stagnate and social security can’t be cashed out. People in America like work like slaves so their bosses can ball out and they drop dead at age 55-60 while monks in Tibet have been documented for decades and decades to live well past 100 years old because they take optimum care of their mind, body and spirit. But Americans are too busy being slaves treating their bodies like garbage for pennies to ever come anywhere close to reaching that level of vibration.

Everyone knows all this... The problem is, you talking about what it SHOULD be and we're talking about what is actually is....


What is this education everyone is speaking of, that allows you to make 6 figures and up and only puts in 40 hours? It's surely not anyone in management, who often has to answer work issues after hours. It's surely not any type of medical field, where they have to work constantly. It's not any type of project management, as we all know that's going to spill over. It's not even sports and entertainment, as those dudes work/practice/train/film/promote all the damn time. Computers, stem, engineering? None of those fields are really going to let you clock in at 9am and clock out at 5pm and have zero work to handle until 9am the next day when you arrive. When you're given that much money or responsibilities, the job stops having hours.


Ok so maybe you want to work for yourself instead of slaving for the man. Good luck owning a business and clocking in at 9a and out at 5pm. So cancel that plan.



Ok so why not just make a cool 40k and not be so pressed for cash and live a great life? Cause nobody is retiring at 65, enjoying vacations, taking care of themselves, eating nice dinners and lunches, doing family outings, paying off the crib and living like a european making 40k in the USA. Those the main ones needing a second and third hustle, just to get their kids through college. Let alone even finding a job to give you all that vacation time.. Paid vacation time at that.

What are these jobs y'all are talking about? Cause the money and lifestyle isn't just for now. How much you put away now will directly affect your life when you want to stop working. In fact, busting your ass now, will have you at a point to not work, a hell of a lot sooner. Those 75 year old retail workers doing a 9-5, would love to have worked some extra hours to avoid that.




So yea.. The system is fukked up. But it's the system. People ain't working like this because they want to. They are forced to because you'd be hard pressed to find a bunch of open jobs that will give you all the shyt you talking about

 

[Wiles]

There are definitely weeks where I’m not working 60 hours, but over the course of an average 7 day week I absolutely do.

On a normal week I’m in meetings for 20-30 hours alone. Time when I’m not in meetings is when ACTUAL work gets done, and I’m sending shyt out to partners or co-workers, working on current projects and planning whatever the next meeting is.

I’ll also have random workdays where I’m out running errands from 11am-1pm, but then I’ll have shyt to do from 3pm well into the evening. My schedule can be flexible and nobody is on my ass about a timecard, which is why I’m willing to give that much of my time to my job. Some nights you’ll catch me finishing a project at 11pm while I smoke a blunt.

But also my schedule isn’t a perfect science I wish I could carve out more time to get a consistent workout routine down, but lotta times I look up and realize I only got to the gym twice that week. My job can keep me in meetings or in front of my computer till 9-10pm on any given weeknight, for other people that’d be a no-go because something like fitness routine or spending time w/ kids takes precedent, and that’s cool.

I think a lot of people can be successful working less than 60 hours though, for sure. Whatever Kevin Samuels said was probably stupid, but I don’t think logging 50-60 hours if you like your job is crazy.

Ok I see you

 

[Wild self]

America is the most overworked country in the developed world. We’ve been on a race to the bottom for decades. People fought for our right to work only 40 hours a week once upon a time. But it seems like since the 08’ recession, employers have had the upper hand and treat it like if you don’t want to work 60+ hours a week, we will find someone who will tomorrow. Americans idolize the European lifestyles, but don’t actually realize how much more laidback they are compared to us. They eat dinner for like three hours, take long ass lunch breaks, have weeks of paid vacation time, get paid more on average, work much less hours etc. etc.

If you working 60+ hours a week at UPS or FedEx, you trying to kill yourself physically. Yeah, you can make $150k a year after three years as a UPS driver, but they working you 12 hours a day, six days a week in all types of weather. UPS is hiring, always for a reason. Even something like working sales 60 hours a week will have you on suicide watch.

The Dali Lama once said what confuses him about mankind is that man trades his health for wealth and uses his money from working to recuperate his broken body. There’s a reason why many people die in America within five years of retiring. Especially in this era where pensions magically disappear or are cut, wages stagnate and social security can’t be cashed out. People in America like work like slaves so their bosses can ball out and they drop dead at age 55-60 while monks in Tibet have been documented for decades and decades to live well past 100 years old because they take optimum care of their mind, body and spirit. But Americans are too busy being slaves treating their bodies like garbage for pennies to ever come anywhere close to reaching that level of vibration.

Cant Tell these Euro-minded people shyt. Violating the same laws that made America into a first-world country. But They stay lusting for that new Bentley, stay on those IG profiles that have billionaire lifestyles, stay on that delusional shyt, but thinking that a career can provide that, when most people with a career stay drowining in debt buying expensive shyt. Is it a sin to be an actual millionaire and drive a Honda Accord and live in a modest place? The Coli Capitalists think so.

 

[Prodyson]

The responses in this thread are yet another confirmation that many of the people on this site lie about their lifestyle and aint really living to their potential.

Most people want to be mediocre. If you want to be mediocre then work 40 hours a week, it's okay.

But if you want to be special, different, above average and have access to the things being above average gets you then you have to be working more than 40 hours a week. Very Very few people can work only 40 hours a week and reach 6 let alone 7 figures. I dont know a single legit entrepreneur that only works 40 hours a week. That shxt is for people that punch a clock.

I work 70+ hours a week but only spend about 45 hours on my 9-5, the other 25+ is spent on growing businesses I've invested in. That 60+ hours a week should be diversified so that you can have multiple revenue streams.

I make 6 figures and work 40-50 hour work weeks on average (normally 40). Making 7 figures would be great but it’s not my priority. At my current pace I should be making 200k by the time I’m in my mid to late 40s (and I live in GA). My priority is time and family… not money. I’m currently in the middle of trying to confirm I don’t have a serious health issue that could literally mean I only have a few years left. Though it’s looking positive right now, it brings in perspective how little being rich means in the grand scheme of things. The only thing I could think about was having more time with my 5 year old daughter. As far as money, the only thing that came to mind was wishing I had thought about life insurance earlier. Luckily, my life insurance from work should cover most expenses should I pass away.

F a 60 hour work week.

 

[David_TheMan]

You want results you work.
Some of you been conditioned by your aint shyt dads and whore mothers to think you get shyt in this world, just because you want it or because you exist.
Nope.
You want something you havew to work for it, you have to out compete the next man, you have to have drive, be perceptive, and be relentless to achieve your objective.
Nothing comes cheap, nothing comes easy

 

[Prodyson]

You want results you work.
Some of you been conditioned by your aint shyt dads and whore mothers to think you get shyt in this world, just because you want it or because you exist.
Nope.
You want something you havew to work for it, you have to out compete the next man, you have to have drive, be perceptive, and be relentless to achieve your objective.
Nothing comes cheap, nothing comes easy

In middle school I worked
In high school I worked
In college… I partied, had to switch schools, then I worked and graduated with honors
My first year out of college I worked a crappy job until I found a decent one
From there, I worked but probably only hit 60 hours a couple times
Now I make six figures

If you start working early and smarter, you don’t have to work 60 hours to be in the top 10%. Any person in STEM with 5-10 years of work experience has the potential to make 6 figures without working 60 plus hours per week, consistently… unless you just work a job that requires that many hours, like some in the medical field.

We should focus less on the number of hours and more on the preparation for the workforce and the types of careers we’re getting.

 

[David_TheMan]

In middle school I worked
In high school I worked
In college… I partied, had to switch schools, then I worked and graduated with honors
My first year out of college I worked a crappy job until I found a decent one
From there, I worked but probably only hit 60 hours a couple times
Now I make six figures

If you start working early and smarter, you don’t have to work 60 hours to be in the top 10%. Any person in STEM with 5-10 years of work experience has the potential to make 6 figures without working 60 plus hours per week, consistently… unless you just work a job that requires that many hours, like some in the medical field.

We should focus less on the number of hours and more on the preparation for the workforce and the types of careers we’re getting.

6 figures is nice, but you want to be a 7 figure earner, you want to be the ceo, you are putting in 70+ hours a week.
You aren't at the pinnicle, and the higher you want to more up the more time, attention, and dedication you have to put in.

Young men need to work, builds self disicipline and responsibility, but please do know, 6 figures isn't the goal, its nice, but you haven't made it breaking 6 figures.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Facts... Everybody above me at my job, routinely puts in 60-80 hours a week. They also make triple what the 40 and gone dudes work.

I really dont get it either. Im really appalled by nikkas not wanting to get up and get it. I easily work 50+ hrs a week, train after work, train people on the weekends, help my man with his businesses on the weekends AND I party on the weekends. Sometimes even DJ when somebody take off.

Do they have to work as hard as me? No but there's no excuse for being lazy.

 

[Prodyson]

6 figures is nice, but you want to be a 7 figure earner, you want to be the ceo, you are putting in 70+ hours a week.
You aren't at the pinnicle, and the higher you want to more up the more time, attention, and dedication you have to put in.

Young men need to work, builds self disicipline and responsibility, but please do know, 6 figures isn't the goal, its nice, but you haven't made it breaking 6 figures.

Well there it is… I have no desire to be the CEO. And making 7 figures would be nice, but it isn’t even top 20 most important things in my life.

Your definition of making it and my definition of making it are probably vastly different. Making it for me has more to do with community, family and experiences. Money supports those things, but doesn’t require a 7 figure income. In general, there is no “winning” life. It’s not a game with a finite end goal. We should be seeking fulfillment, not arbitrary accolades where the measure of success is constantly changing and often times unattainable.

 

[David_TheMan]

Well there it is… I have no desire to be the CEO. And making 7 figures would be nice, but it isn’t even top 20 most important things in my life.

Your definition of making it and my definition of making it are probably vastly different. Making it for me has more to do with community, family and experiences. Money supports those things, but doesn’t require a 7 figure income. In general, there is no “winning” life. It’s not a game with a finite end goal. We should be seeking fulfillment, not arbitrary accolades where the measure of success is constantly changing and often times unattainable.

This us a thread about professional afvancement.

If you arent cut out for it and dont want to do what it takes fine. Being the best and going to the top isnt for everyone.

That said young men still need to be pushed that route and develop thise hard and soft skills to accomplish the task if called on.

Telling young boys, especially young black boys to never even push is one of the biggest disservices to the fba community and it was done by the gynocracy