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Honestly Avowed did decent imo. It had limited marketing and reached 19k steam ccu. I think it had more players than Indiana Jones. I do find it weird they don't market their games and rely on word of mouth but they go about that in the wrong way which is why there's not much fanfare with their games imo.


Gamers will hate to hear this but most people don't want to play AA games. Sure, you get games like Ex33, but for every Ex33 you have hundreds of AA games that people pass on. It's why Microsoft going AA route with their games didn't catch much fanfare. The only way that did massive was Sea of Thieves, but all of the others didn't really capture many gamers. State of Decay performed pretty well for what it was but other than that most people didn't really touch their AA games. The internet always preaches about smaller games and AA, but most people gravitate towards grand AAA games because they feel it's it's more valuable. It's why you look at any sales chart it mainly consists of AAA games if you look at top 25 sales of the year.

Theoretically, focusing on shorter dev time and smaller titles would've made sense for gamepass approach. However, Microsoft is bad at marketing their games and don't know how to produce quality quickly. If they were able to go at the pace of Sega, then they would be in a much different situation .Sega has the formula in how game pass should work. Them being able to produce Yakuza/Like a Dragon game, Atlus RPG, and other games every 2 years is what Microsoft should've been working towards when they pivoted towards game pass. Of course you can still have your AAA games, but it should've mainly consisted of AA games and other games that are quick to make. Taking 5+ years to make Hellblade 2 is malpratice for how bad it flopped.

Microsoft thing is interesting if they were to go exclusvie. I don't think these games are enough to make playstation gamers move or undecided gamers to move to xbox. If you're an undecided gamer would you choose Indiana Jones, Hellbalde 2, South of Midnight, Avowed, The Outer World 2,Oblviion Remastered, Doom, etc. or would you choose Spider man 2, Ghost of Yotei, Astro Bot, Helldivers 2, Stellar Blade, Rise of Ronin, Silent Hill 2, Death Stranding 2, etc. I think even Sony at their weakest will still make people gravitate towards to Sony becasue their friends are most likely there and their name is worht more. They would of course get more hardware sales, but it still won't be enough because people outside of North America and UK don't f with Microsoft consoles.
Disagree with this. People will play games that are considered decent to great or popular whether the game is AA or AAA. The difference is Sony has a reputation they built over decades with a consistent delivery of quality AA and AAA games.
 
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Disagree with this. People will play games that are considered decent to great or popular whether the game is AA or AAA. The difference is Sony has a reputation they built over decades with a consistent delivery of quality AA and AAA games.
It's not just a console manufacturer thing but a lot of AA games get overlooked because the market feels it's not worth their money.

Even if we look at Sony, Astro bot won GOTY and was a highly reviewed game but it sold under 3million copies. Gamers felt it wasn't worth their money to buy at launch because they felt their not getting enough value for it. Many will skip over games with AA budget because of that reason. Games like Ex33 are anomalies because most will skip AA games because they feel there's more value in games with AAA budgets.
 
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It's not just a console manufacturer thing but a lot of AA games get overlooked because the market feels it's not worth their money.

Even if we look at Sony, Astro bot won GOTY and was a highly reviewed game but it sold under 3million copies. Gamers felt it wasn't worth their money to buy at launch because they felt their not getting enough value for it. Many will skip over games with AA budget because of that reason. Games like Ex33 are anomalies because most will skip AA games because they feel there's more value in games with AAA budgets.
Games are skipped because there are a bunch of games that release every year so not all of them will sell well. That has nothing to do with the game being AA or AAA.
 

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Games are skipped because there are a bunch of games that release every year so not all of them will sell well. That has nothing to do with the game being AA or AAA.

Games are skipped because there are a bunch of games that release every year so not all of them will sell well. That has nothing to do with the game being AA or AAA.
That's true, but people are less likely to buy a AA game over a AAA game is my point.

Gamers want publishers to shift towards AA over AAA, but history has shown people put their spending dollars more towards AAA.
 

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That's true, but people are less likely to buy a AA game over a AAA game is my point.

Gamers want publishers to shift towards AA over AAA, but history has shown people put their spending dollars more towards AAA.

people also won’t spend $70/80 on a AA game either unless its from Nintendo.

Clair Obscur probably would have bombed at $70 and i remember most of the discussion for ratchet and clank and Returnal being overpriced at $70
 
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That's true, but people are less likely to buy a AA game over a AAA game is my point.

Gamers want publishers to shift towards AA over AAA, but history has shown people put their spending dollars more towards AAA.

Depends on the game. The difference between AA and AAA games is budget. Players are going to choose the popular AA or AAA games or whatever is considered decent to great. Players are willing to pay for a decent to great game or popular game whether the game is AA or AAA since the only difference is budget with the price depending on the game and the person not whether or not the game is AA or AAA. People wouldn't even know the game is AA or AAA unless they searched up either the budget or the game being called AA or AAA.

people also won’t spend $70/80 on a AA game either unless its from Nintendo.

Clair Obscur probably would have bombed at $70 and i remember most of the discussion for ratchet and clank and Returnal being overpriced at $70
There are people who wouldn't pay $70/80 for an AAA game either, especially $80. Will need to wait and see how the $80 affect Nintendo's game sales.
 
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What did gamers think would happen.

They'd spend 69 billion on Activision and convince their shareholders not to trim their fat and sell their games to a smaller audience?

Xbox fans really cheered on the undertaker digging its grave.
These dudes sided with trump on the merger just because they thought buying Bethesda and etc was going to block those games from coming to the ps5 :dahell:
 

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These dudes sided with trump on the merger just because they thought buying Bethesda and etc was going to block those games from coming to the ps5 :dahell:

One of the most bizarre developments i’ve ever seen in console wars, a bunch of people rallying against the FTC and asking for people like Lina Khan to literally be fired, and going to war with US Politicians for trying to block one of the largest corporations from buying out another major corporation. For reasons like this. Even places like resetera that are the most prideful lefties were banning people for questioning this shyt.

nikkas went full MAGA and for what? :snoop:
 
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