Millennial marriage statistics

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Pretty much. America has abandoned the idea of structuring society in ways that support the stability of families where the breadwinner doesn't have a college degree. How can you save on a down payment for a home, raise children, save for college or other emergency expendetures when you make 15 an hour if you're lucky enough to have a job and the cost of living keeps going up? Even if you spend you do earn a degree you have an enormous debt burden, but most Americans aren't college educated and it's even lower for black Americans. Millennial s got fukked by the recession, was handed a gig economy, and are getting destroyed by covid-19 and our leaders dgaf.
 

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I don't think that was what he was trying to say, but I will.

Yea it is Black mens fault our community is in disarray. Men take ownership and try to fix things. Complaining about external factors isn't going to fix our horrible statistics.
I agree. We the captain of this ship.:snoop:



According to Neely Fuller Jr, if our community was a ship, the black man would be the captain. The crew would be the women and children. And do you know who's always responsible if the ship capsizes? The captain. Even if it ain't the captains direct fault, and one of his crew does something stupid, the responsibility still falls on the captain (the man).


Sadly, our community is a ship that is simultaneously set on a fire we didn't start, and sinking from generations of ignored holes. Our captains(men) are out here mingling with the crew on some "what are we gonna do?" nonesense or some, "this ain't my problem", kinda sht.:stopitslime:



I understand that most of this damage wasn't black folks fault, but nobody else is gonna fix it. At the end of the day it falls on black men to reign in our women and fix our sinking ship.:francis:
 

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:lolbron: #GMB don't make arguments they just go on emotion filled rants, so it's easy to avoid them.
You say you avoid them yet you make these threads to discuss these same individuals?

You're getting lost in the hoe babble
 

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Sounds like the US would benefit from arranged marriages. This dating thing doesn't seem to be working out. Maybe the Eastern societies have a better idea. They do have more experience. I know one thing, don't leave your kids out there depending on them to find someone in this society.
 
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At the end of the day it falls on black men to reign in our women and fix our sinking ship.:francis:
I saw a young black home maker on yt the other day and was :krs:.

Im an og millennial (1981). Finding black home makers who aren't post menopausal is like a needle in a haysack. There needs to be more of us, for pr, but black men aren't creating them...?
 

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I agree. We the captain of this ship.:snoop:



According to Neely Fuller Jr, if our community was a ship, the black man would be the captain. The crew would be the women and children. And do you know who's always responsible if the ship capsizes? The captain. Even if it ain't the captains direct fault, and one of his crew does something stupid, the responsibility falls on the captain (the man).


Sadly, our community is a ship that is simultaneously set on a fire we didn't start, and sinking from generations of ignored holes. Our captains(men) are out here mingling with the crew on some "what are we gonna do?" nonsense or some, "this ain't my problem", kinda sht.:stopitslime:



I understand that most of this damage wasn't black folks fault, but nobody else is gonna fix it. At the end of the day it falls on black men to reign in our women and fix our sinking ship.:francis:

Great metaphor, but just float a possible how. You and others that say this tend to not outline how you will change what women find attractive.

Because that's an extremely tall task, that would require rebranding media (hip-hop, tv, movies), and bushing older bitter single bw in the community who largely shape the mentalities of bw, because they all as a collective raise bw. You gonna make girls stop liking the Megs, Cardis, etc. and the messages they push? If so you're also going up against the cacs who fund that in the every realm of media. You'd be going up against the Lena Waithes (along with their benefactors), and alphabet folk who portray black men as weak, gender fluid, erratic beings.

3rd wave feminism in a lotta ways is the community's pandora's box. It's been opened and I don't really see a way to close it.

To put in perspective a quick anecdote, summer of 19 I worked through a gig app as an expeditor for a concert series, on of the waitresses (also on the app) was a pretty sista, knowledgeable, college educated. But when I had 1 on 1 convos with her I found she was into the LGBTQ+ activism, and danced at Coyote Ugly based off those alone I could infer she more likely than not has debt for a degree she's not even able to use (a weak arts degree). Keep in mind last summer I'm 21 she's 26 (I come across older in person). After I learned this other shyt, she went from potential prospect to potential jumpoff. When I made my move to hang with her she asked me what I brought to the table, explaining that she was looking to get married within the next 2 years and this is a direct quote "while she wasn't opposed to me being that person, I had to go about it the right way." When I read that message I was a combo of
:dwillhuh::gucci::why::mjlol::russ::comeon::unimpressed:
A woman a peg above a stripper, with debt, who's cozy with them alphabet folks asked me what I brought to the table, assuming I wanted something serious with her. I respectfully slid out of the situation, but was thorough shocked that the woman essentially was saying

"Hi there Russ, I'm Ciara how is it you'll be providing for me if I bless you with my p*ssy? :queen:"

The moral of the story is a lot of the community is too far gone and you can only save what's salvageable or better, but some gotta die alone with no kids so they don't pass on their mentalities or habits.
 

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I saw a young black home maker on yt the other day and was :krs:.

Im an og millennial (1981). Finding black home makers who aren't post menopausal is like a needle in a haysack. There needs to be more of us, for pr, but black men aren't creating them...?
Word. And its doable too. Most young brehs are chasing other things instead of stability.



A big part of it is income and locality. If a breh can hold 50k down in the south or Midwest, then a home makers life is complete feasible for his woman. Its equally possible on the northeast and west coast for 70k. But to get to these levels and comfortably support a woman(and kids) it will take a great deal of self investment or old-school grinding in their 20s


If we being honest, most young black people dont get this mindset until mid 30s or early 40s. Thats why its so rare to see a young home maker:manny:
 
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Those divorce laws don't only apply to the Black community. Both points you put out are cross-racial, so clearly their are other factors leading to the abismal marriage statistic.

When are we as Black men going to collectively own up to the fact that we aren't doing enough to strengthen our community?

At this point it's clear you and @CopiousX are being obtuse and ignoring/avoiding the meat and potatoes of the bolded statement. I along with other poster have outlined ad nauseam what the issues specific to our community are and you nor any other poster ITT caping for the mating choices and expectations of bw have addressed them. Instead you keep saying the same insulting shyt about we, as if all black men are leaving women alone with children, or turning down reasonable bw looking to marry reasonable bm. The absolution of bw only deepens the ditch, but y'all can't seem to help yourselves. I have a theory on why certain posters are like that, but I'm going to get personal with anybody. Be blessed breh.
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Im not trying to offend anyone but I gotta keep it real

Black men who are realistic about what level they’re on in terms of looks and money don’t really complain about the stuff that some of y’all be complaining about

90+ percent of the dudes complaining about “pookie and ray ray” are either trying to get black women who are out of their league, or they just don’t like black women so they use the pookie and ray ray shyt as a cop-out to date out

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Sounds like the US would benefit from arranged marriages. This dating thing doesn't seem to be working out. Maybe the Eastern societies have a better idea. They do have more experience. I know one thing, don't leave your kids out there depending on them to find someone in this society.

This is an ice cold take, when this country/the west is built on independence and choice. If you want to live in more community based societies it's time to move to an eastern/traditional country. If Muricans couldn't do masks for each other there sure as hell not going to have spouses more or less dictated
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Another point that's off in this point is the assumed need for a spouse and a family, if we've learned anything from human history it's that marriage/children isn't for everyone. (I'd make the argument that with the current zeitgeist both aren't for most)
 

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I just find the ideas AGAINST marriage laughable. Most of them (in this forum) stem from insecurity...

Like, realize that YOU personally might not be ready for it, or may not be marriage material. Don’t pick and choose narratives to demonstrate that the idea of marriage is flawed. It’s the people coming into it that are...

If you have a hard time teaming up with an individual and finding common ground, that’s really on you
 
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