MJ is the GOAT and this tweet just proves it : mindblown:

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@Rhakim

got tabled't tha fukk up here.



You never watched or dug in the crate on basketball.

In the same manner.
you never dug in the crate.
for hiphop and named a flaug'n version of @Rhakim .

nikka tried to boost orlando woolridge. who was garbage and exposed when one was injured. That woolridge was too busy hating on an injured jordan. instead of re-seizing the day on his failing exposed career. After woolridge's rookie productuon and skill on rhe depth chart was exposed. after Mike got there as a rookie.

More proof you only skim and headfake.

The shyt hilarious watching and reading the flaug'n y'all do.





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Didn't Orlando Woodridge have a cocaine problem
 

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Didn't Orlando Woodridge have a cocaine problem


Money Mayweather : Yep


allegedly the guy Mike caught using with other players and alienated himself from after biases death. After bias died. Trying to be a cluck and accepted was over.
for those bommer face ass goofies back then in our gen.

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Because you was talking shyt about the Bills but my other squad came through in the clutch fukk is wrong with you :umad:

:pachaha: What gave you even the slightest idea that I'm :fire: about that? :mjlol:

The Bills going out sad definitely got you glitching, hence the recent nut-ass threads you've been making in both The 'Seum and TLR. :jordanfacepalm:
 

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:pachaha: What gave you even the slightest idea that I'm :fire: about that? :mjlol:

The Bills going out sad definitely got you glitching, hence the recent nut-ass threads you've been making in both The 'Seum and TLR. :jordanfacepalm:
Bills ain't got nothing to do with PAWGIN

Didn't know you were a Spurs fan my fault
 

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Look at the teams they played on. Steph's core included another all-star/all-NBA guard, a DPOY, and a FMVP off the bench and Wade had Shaq who made it to the finals in 5 of the last 7 years at that point while Pippen was playing with Horace Grant and BJ Armstrong. Despite that, Pippen led the Bulls to two less wins than they had in the previous Jordan-led season and a relatively deep playoff run. You don't think he could have had similar success as Wade and Curry if Jordan was replaced with the support they had?
How was Horace Grant and BJ Armstrong somehow enough for MJ but not Pip? Shaq wasn’t even the same player he was in 2006 as he was in 2005. This Shaq gravity angle went from being a solid basketball discussion to being the most overstated angles in sports history. They conveniently forget how much Wade was carrying the load when Shaq missed games in the regular seasons. Somehow Wades decline is a constant footnote of the LeBron big 3 era, but Shaqs decline is always ignored for his former glory and what he used to be. Lakers carryover. Wade-Shaq was NOT the duo y’all think it was when Miami won in 2006. I watched the season from beginning to Game 6 against Dallas. This retconning is hilarious. :dead:

How does a center play with 2 of the top 5 shooting guards in NBA history, and the guards legacies always have to defer to his? Ok, I can see why the first 3 with Kobe would be Shaqs, but ain’t no way a center can average 18ppg and the running mate average 28ppg, and the SG has to defer. Stop trying to “little man” Wades legacy because of Shaq.
 

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Funny thing is, I can remember watching Jordan play in real time in the 1980s and early 1990s and many people said he wasn't the GOAT. He had many who said he was the GOAT too, but there was no consensus about it until his second run. So you're obviously full of it.

Yeah, Jordan was impressive. But the human mind is incredible at forming a narrative and then adjusting everything past and present to fit. The idea that MJ was some sort of indisputable GOAT and all you had to do was see him on the court to knows that, that's literally just a psychological narrative that your brain chooses from emotion or groupthink and then searches for evidence to fit. It has far more to do with what you want to believe than with any objective reality.
"there was no consensus about it until his second run."
It was world news (literally) when he retired the first time. The entire world stopped when he came back.. and this was because he was NOT consensus best player in the game..? He was a phenomenon homie. And this was in the 90s, far before this "everything is a flop, everything is a foul" league.

"just a psychological narrative that your brain chooses from emotion or groupthink"
Before he left he had 3 Finals, 3 Rings, 3 Finals MVPs.
Do I really need to list stats and achievements for you to understand that this has nothing to do with "bias" or "psychology"
This is about facts: 6 Finals, 6 Rings, 6 Final MVPs. Not emotion.

So.. I'm not sure what you were watching homie, but he was considered the GOAT far before he was done at the Bulls.
 

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"there was no consensus about it until his second run."
It was world news (literally) when he retired the first time. The entire world stopped when he came back.. and this was because he was NOT consensus best player in the game..? He was a phenomenon homie. And this was in the 90s, far before this "everything is a flop, everything is a foul" league.

He was the consensus best player at the time, not the consensus best player ever.




"just a psychological narrative that your brain chooses from emotion or groupthink"
Before he left he had 3 Finals, 3 Rings, 3 Finals MVPs.
Do I really need to list stats and achievements for you to understand that this has nothing to do with "bias" or "psychology"
This is about facts: 6 Finals, 6 Rings, 6 Final MVPs. Not emotion.

So.. I'm not sure what you were watching homie, but he was considered the GOAT far before he was done at the Bulls.

The contradictions are bizarre. First, I was responding to a guy who said what made MJ better was understood just by watching him play, but you're trying to claim it was objective accomplishments that has nothing to do with eyes and feelings.

Then you claim the 6 Finals were the objective fact that made him the best, but then you claim he was the best long before those 6 Finals. So which is it?

Were Kareem's 6 titles and 6 MVPs objectively better than MJ with his 3 and 3 after his first retirement, or not? Magic had 5 and 3, Bird had 3 and 3, and let's not even talk about Russell. So are you being objective or not?

I'm not saying that MJ isn't the best. I'm saying that these mystical claims that he was somehow objectively different whenever he played, that every time out he looked better than anyone who ever lived, come from psychology. MJ looked amazing when he was on... so did McGrady. If I showed you one elite MJ half at random, one elite Kobe half at random, and one elite Iverson half at random, you wouldn't immediately know MJ was the GOAT based off that sample. The feelings you get watching him play take into account those six titles, five MVPs, the constant Nike narratives, and everything else that is attached to his image. No one "objectively" watches a Jordan game.
 
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Kobe has every single one of those things, and Shaq has all but perimeter defense of which he has elite interior defense unlike MJ.

The entire tweet (of a tweet, of a fb post) is ridiculous, even if you agree
Shaq wasn’t an elite defender, he was a great shot blocker
 
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