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Play In tournament best thing to happen to regular season basketball in years. Now only top 6 teams in a conference are guaranteed a spot. This makes the regular season important for everyone. Teams 1-4 who are fighting for home court advantage, 5-8 are trying to avoid the play in, and 9-12 are trying to get in the play in for a chance to make the playoffs.

Now there really are only a handful of teams tanking because more teams are in play.
This is a change I can rock with. It really rewards the top teams in a conference.
It’s cool for the fans but if you’re a player who already doesn’t like the compressed season I can understand why they wouldn’t like the play in lol
I don’t understand why this board hates luka
 

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The play in game is made to stop those 9-11 teams from full on tanking. So instead of damn near ten teams tanking for the draft you got at best maybe five now. Orlando, Detroit, Rockets, Wolves, OKC. Maybe Cavs too. Everybody still fighting to be in the playoffs.
no it’s just to spice it up and add games to watch. There aren’t 10 teams tanking. Theres like 4 teams every year that don’t make the playoffs in the west and they were very much trying
 

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They just want to complain . I have no idea why suddenly it’s a terrible stupid idea as if the playoffs haven’t been changed several times . They trying too hard and a majority of the posters doesn’t even understand how it works and they are upset mistakenly

What’s so egregious about the playin games ? All the 7/8 have to do is win a game a piece to stay in the playoffs . It’s not different than having to win the last game of the season pretty much
The Mavericks are 10th overall in the league in top to bottom standings

Yet they would have to play a play-in game (or possibly 2) for a 16 team tournament.
You don’t see what’s egregious about that?

The Mavericks would be the 4 seed and have home court in the East, but they have to play a play-in tournament in the West. You don’t see what’s egregious about that?

The 13th overall team in the league in the NY Knicks don’t have to play a play-in game, but the 10th overall team in the league does. You don’t see what’s egregious about that?

You’re talking about posters not understanding the rules and complaining just to complain while ignoring the elephant in the room. The fact that you literally have a team that is in the top 3rd of the league that will have to play a play-in game to qualify for the playoffs that puts 16 out of 30 teams in is pretty astounding.


Nobody in the thread has addressed any of this. I’m very interested in hearing a compelling argument why lesser East teams should have secure playoff spots over competitive West teams that have to do gimmick tournaments
 

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no it’s just to spice it up and add games to watch. There aren’t 10 teams tanking. Theres like 4 teams every year that don’t make the playoffs in the west and they were very much trying
Pistons finally have a new gm committee to a rebuild. They are tanking

Orlando traded all three of their best players for nothing. They tanking

Wolves suck but if they don’t have a top five pick the warriors get it so they are tanking.

Rockets traded the mvp for caris levers and Jarrett Allen and flipped that into a three team trade where they have Oladipo who they eventually trade for nothing. They are tanking.

OKC has 30 picks in the next five drafts. Al Horford is done for the rest of the season and he’s healthy. Tank tank.

cavs are not making the playoffs despite hype from beating Brooklyn early in the season. They are effectively in tank mode now.

that’s six teams who aren’t actively trying to make the playoffs anymore. Everyone else is at least trying. 6 teams tanking, like 12 legit solidified teams contending and 12 teams just trying to avoid or enter the play in tournament.
 

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The same forum that takes issue with a pitiful 6-10 or 7-9 garbage NFC East champion making the playoffs and hosting a Divisional Game seem to have no issue with a top 1/3 NBA team having to do a play in tournament to qualify vs sub .500 teams that are a 10 seed.

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There’s no slippery slope argument breh. You legit have people on this site complaining that there already too many games in an NBA season. Yet are perfectly fine with adding more games to the schedule

The play-in games would make more sense if the NBA season was reduced. It’s 72 games this year, but more than likely it’s going back to 82 games next season as no one wants to lose out of the missed revenue.

It's 3 games bruh :dwillhuh:
 

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The Mavericks are 10th overall in the league in top to bottom standings

Yet they would have to play a play-in game (or possibly 2) for a 16 team tournament.
You don’t see what’s egregious about that?
10th best team in a 30-team league doesn't have any room to complain about their playoff path being too difficult. If you want an easy path to a championship then play like a team with a chance.




The Mavericks would be the 4 seed and have home court in the East, but they have to play a play-in tournament in the West. You don’t see what’s egregious about that?

The 13th overall team in the league in the NY Knicks don’t have to play a play-in game, but the 10th overall team in the league does. You don’t see what’s egregious about that?
So a team about to lose in the first round gonna bytch about some other team that's also going to lose in the 1st round? :mjlol:




Nobody in the thread has addressed any of this. I’m very interested in hearing a compelling argument why lesser East teams should have secure playoff spots over competitive West teams that have to do gimmick tournaments
It's 2021 and you think that sports leagues need to prove that it's legitimate to have different conferences? :dead:

In the 1981 ECF the 62-win Sixers had to face the 62-win Celtics.....while in the WCF you had two teams with LOSING records facing off.

And 40 years later, we still have different conferences with different paths to the Finals. And that ain't gonna change.
 

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10th best team in a 30-team league doesn't have any room to complain about their playoff path being too difficult. If you want an easy path to a championship then play like a team with a chance.





So a team about to lose in the first round gonna bytch about some other team that's also going to lose in the 1st round? :mjlol:





It's 2021 and you think that sports leagues need to prove that it's legitimate to have different conferences? :dead:

In the 1981 ECF the 62-win Sixers had to face the 62-win Celtics.....while in the WCF you had two teams with LOSING records facing off.

And 40 years later, we still have different conferences with different paths to the Finals. And that ain't gonna change.
You’re just making excuses without really answering any of the questions

How does it make sense to let the 13th overall team in the league get into the playoffs, no questions asked, but the 10th overall team needs to play in a gimmick tournament?

What exactly was broken about the past system.

Also, why are you talking about 1981 like this isn’t 40 years later and players routinely load manage, teams rest players, and we’re already in a condensed season? And now we’re adding in a 4 game tournament at the end of the season. To apparently fix something that wasn’t even broken? That doesn’t take conference parity into account?

The Knicks about to lose in the first round too... What is your point? They’re not even in the top 1/3 of the league. And they don’t have to play a play-in game...

This is where you reply back with some unrelated 1965 factoid :unimpressed:
 

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10th best team in the league has no right to complain about their playoff path depending on a play-in tournament

But the 11th, 12th, and 13th best teams in the league not having to deal with any of that and being auto-bids is fine

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Coli: “jUsT wIn ThE gAmEs”.

Mavs: proceed to win enough games to be 10th overall and 4th in the East

Coli: what’s wrong with the play-in tournament :dwillhuh:
 

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Y'all acting like this shyt is March madness when it's just 3 extra games per conference. Don't want to be in the play in? Take the regular season more seriously:unimpressed:
Nah. A lot of you are being intentionally obtuse about this like multiple faces of the league don’t sit out routinely and try to rest for certain stretches and be prepared for playoffs.

Try telling guys like Bron, Kawhi, and KD (the last 5 Finals MVPs...) that “it’s only 3 games, suck it up.”

It’s fine when Coli’s favorite players need rest and to pace themselves. When it’s a guy you guys don’t like, fukk em, it’s just a couple games, don’t be p*ssy.


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You’re just making excuses without really answering any of the questions
What "excuse" did I make? This is literally the system and always has been in every American sport. I didn't need to make an "excuse" for conferences existing.



How does it make sense to let the 13th overall team in the league get into the playoffs, no questions asked, but the 10th overall team needs to play in a gimmick tournament?
You see, in American sports we have these things called "conferences" and in order to play in the Finals, you have to win your "conference". What is happening in the other conference is completely irrelevant to whether you win your conference or not. Since the Knicks don't play in the Western Conference, they are completely irrelevant to your path to winning the Western Conference.
 
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