NBA MVP race - the top ten candidates ten games in

Gil Scott-Heroin

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@The Dankster Allen's hamstring was a growing concern all throughout the playoffs, it's no good quoting something that happened in G3 about him re-aggravating it when he had been doing so ever since he came back from the initial injury. You're speaking as if he only re-aggravated it in Game 3. What about that is so hard for you to comprehend? -
He was re-aggravating all throughout the playoffs - not just in Game 3 but in the games prior in that series and in the first round. If you had been actually watching the Grizzlies play, you would've known this. He was basically day-to-day for most games in the playoffs. I never said he didn't re-aggravate it in G3. I said he was 'hurt'/injured in Game 4 (where his injury actually ruled him out of the game). Game 4 marked when he actually got hurt, to the point he could no longer play on it -

After returning for Game 6 Friday night and having a very minimal impact in the opening half, Ramona Shelburne of ESPN passed along word that Allen would not return for the second half of the game.

Allen, 33, was limited to 16 minutes in Memphis' Game 4 101-84 loss after appearing to tweak his hamstring in the third quarter. He finished with four points and five rebounds. For the series, Allen is averaging nine points and 4.5 rebounds a game, including a 15-point performance in Game 1.
This is before the T'Blazers series -


If you're going to say he was "hurt" in Game 3 you might as well say he was hurt all throughout the playoffs. When you bring up a player actually getting hurt that has a lingering injury, it's usually in reference to them coming out of the game and staying out - that only happened in G4 of that series.

This is where you get yourself into troubling because you talk about shyt you have little-to-no knowledge of. You're wrong on this - do NOT bring it up again.

Tony Allen took to Twitter on Monday to give fans a video peek at how hard he’s working to return from a left hamstring strain.

However, the Grizzlies’ veteran swingman will sit out at least another week with the injury and his return to action before the playoffs begin seems questionable.

“I’m trying to do all I can do to get healthy,” Allen said Monday after missing the past four games. “If I was 100 percent I’d be playing. I feel bad that I can’t go out there. I feel like I’m energy. I’m a spark plug. My enthusiasm plays a role into us being successful. It hurts my heart not to be out there. I’m frustrated because the injury comes at a bad time because I felt like I was in a good rhythm. It’s a minor setback for major comeback.”
 
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The fact you did all that maneuvering in regards to Paul's defense on Lillard during the postseason when I called you out on it and didn't end up responding despite me posting actual footage of what happened speaks volumes on what type of poster you are (you even have the nerve to keep up this corny ass 'I've never lost to you' routine').


@The Dankster how are you going to accuse me of not acknowledging something which you deem to be "blindingly obvious" when you never did when I first posted this clip?

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First of all, LeBron isn't going to get a lot of votes based on last year's Finals. Second of all, why does every candidate have a specific bullet point that lessens their chances of winning MVP, but LeBron doesn't?

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Yo you still suck, B..

Go on another sabbatical you need it..

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I don't give a fukk what anybody else thinks that's not how I operate..

You still suck..
Are you still in your feelings after I made you look like a clown?

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I remember I shytted all over that dude one time and this nikka flooded my inbox talkin bout he didn't like what I said he wanted to throw hands :russ:

Money is a clown :scust:
You didn't shyt on shyt. Here's what happened - Malc made a thread about the Warriors and tagged me followed by -
Dude annoys the crap outta me always quoting me with his bullshyt..

I wouldn't mind smackin the shyt outta duke :mjpls:
Then when I sent you a PM, to throw the fade (to be discreet and not broadcast it all over the board) - you bytched up. Say that you wouldn't mind smacking the shyt outta someone and then back out once they call you out brehs.

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@The Dankster Allen's hamstring was a growing concern all throughout the playoffs, it's no good quoting something that happened in G3 about him re-aggravating it when he had been doing so ever since he came back from the initial injury. You're speaking as if he only re-aggravated it in Game 3. What about that is so hard for you to comprehend? -

But I never said he only reaggravated it in Game 3. Never.

If it was "a growing concern" all through the playoffs, thus meaning it was getting worse, that would be fine for supporting my larger point too - which was that Allen was healthier in games 1-3 than he was in games 4-6.

If you think my point wasn't strong enough, that can be a disagreement. But you didn't say that - you said I was wrong and that it never happened. And that's where you undeniably went wrong and unbelievably can't admit it.

The ONLY thing we are arguing here is "did Allen get hurt in game 3". I said, simply, no gloss, "Allen got injured in Game 3." You said straight up that I was wrong and he didn't get hurt in Game 3.

The ESPN article said that Allen got injured in Game 3.


It's that simple. You're doing all this ridiculous maneuvering to get around the simple fact that the point of disagreement was a single phrase. And I was undeniably right.



@The Dankster how are you going to accuse me of not acknowledging something which you deem to be "blindingly obvious" when you never did when I first posted this clip?

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I've never looked at that clip once, and I'm not arguing subtleties until you play honest enough to admit obvious facts.

Lillard was 20 and 6 on 36% before CP3 got hurt.

Lillard was 30 and 7 on 37% after CP3 got hurt.

Obviously this argument is more subtle than a simple "Tony Allen got hurt in Game 3".



Other posters can see what's going on, what about that has you confused? :mjpls:

You're such a tool. The use of the plural is a lie - the ONLY poster who co-signer your nonsense was freaking Chicago, who both hates me more and is even a bigger tool than you are. :russ:
 

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You're such a tool. The use of the plural is a lie - the ONLY poster who co-signer your nonsense was freaking Chicago, who both hates me more and is even a bigger tool than you are. :russ:
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Re: Allen's hamstring

I'm not going to repeat myself again. You were wrong. That's all there is to it.
 

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I've never looked at that clip once, and I'm not arguing subtleties until you play honest enough to admit obvious facts.

Lillard was 20 and 6 on 36% before CP3 got hurt.

Lillard was 30 and 7 on 37% after CP3 got hurt.

Obviously this argument is more subtle than a simple "Tony Allen got hurt in Game 3".
How the fukk can you rule it as "subtleties" when I actually posted a clip which contains most of Lillard's FGAs during that series and you're throwing out #s without any context behind them?

THE VIDEO I POSTED IS "OBVIOUS FACTS", NOT SOME BOX SCORE #S THAT DON'T TELL YOU HOW PAUL DEFENDED LILLARD. You playing dumb when it suits you ass muh'fukka

YOU ARE SHAMELESS. :dead:
The fact you did all that maneuvering in regards to Paul's defense on Lillard during the postseason when I called you out on it and didn't end up responding despite me posting actual footage of what happened speaks volumes on what type of poster you are (you even have the nerve to keep up this corny ass 'I've never lost to you' routine').


And another day goes by where this clip is not acknowledged......

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Re: Allen's hamstring

I'm not going to repeat myself again. You were wrong. That's all there is to it.

I said that he got hurt in Game 3.

You said Allen didn't get hurt in Game 3.

ESPN said:
Allen initially aggravated the left hamstring midway through the Grizzlies' win Saturday in Game 3.


There is no world in which I was wrong. He got hurt in Game 3. Facts are right there. We weren't talking about whether he also got hurt in other games, we were talking about Game 3, and I have the receipt right there.




How the fukk can you rule it as "subtleties" when I actually posted a clip which contains most of Lillard's FGAs during that series....

And another day goes by where this clip is not acknowledged......

Because FGA don't tell the whole story. One of CP3's main strengths as a defender is how many shots he limits his guy to. That's what I showed you in the 2014 shooting chart - it's not just guys shooting a low %, it's that they hardly get opportunities at all.

Dame's FG% only went up slightly after CP3 went out. But his usage (and both his and Portland's scoring) went well up.

When a guy is bulldogging you all game, and you're not getting your shots, it affects your game. Dame was pressing even when he got free. You show some plays where CP3 slacked and Dame got open, you got rotated on to. But he still was pressing because he was frustrated. You're not showing clips where CP3 kept Kyrie from getting a shot at all. It's just like what Billups was talking about they did to Kobe. By limiting Kobe's shot attempts by luring the ball to Shaq, they got Kobe to press even when he was only single covered. CP3 limited Dame's attempts significantly, and that affects him even when CP3 slacks on a possession.

That's what I mean by subtleties.

Best part is that even while you think I'm partially wrong, you also know deep down that I'm at least partially right, but you'll never admit that as long as you can't even admit something as simple as "Tony Allen got hurt in Game 3" even when the receipt is right in your face.



And I antagonise you by not watching your video, which gets in your head so deep that even when I post what others see as an innocent, facts-based thread, you go off like I insulted ya mama. This is who you are with your long-lasting, never-admitting defeat agendas. There's been entire threads about you celebrating it.
 
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