NBA MVP race - the top ten candidates ten games in
If the Cavs keep shytting on the East like this then it'll be LeBron, but I really expect his numbers to drop after Christmas because by then the Cavs will be something like 24-4 or something around those lines and he'll start playing less minutes.
That being said my choice is either KD or Kawhi. KD has been coasting into a historically efficient season and I think the Warriors are winning 60 or more games however most people don't seem to be a fan of him joining the Warriors so obviously that'll hurt his chances. Kawhi, same deal, but he's never won a MVP and I think he'll sway voters because of that fact. Spurs are getting a lot of love lately now that people hate the Warriors.
Outside chance of Steph again, but he's been playing more PG this year and he's not going to put up as many sexy scoring statlines as KD does even though he'll probably have finish with higher assist numbers than last year.
That being said my choice is either KD or Kawhi. KD has been coasting into a historically efficient season and I think the Warriors are winning 60 or more games however most people don't seem to be a fan of him joining the Warriors so obviously that'll hurt his chances. Kawhi, same deal, but he's never won a MVP and I think he'll sway voters because of that fact. Spurs are getting a lot of love lately now that people hate the Warriors.
Outside chance of Steph again, but he's been playing more PG this year and he's not going to put up as many sexy scoring statlines as KD does even though he'll probably have finish with higher assist numbers than last year.
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Harden right now, no hate
First page and we already have people arguing that they're sure it's Lebron, or Durant, or Kawhi, or Harden, or Westbrook at the top. 
If your team wins FEWER games than it did before it added you, then how the hell are you going to claim you're the most valuable?
Because last season is IRRELEVANT. MVP typically goes to the best player on the best team [best record] - if the Warriors win less games than last season yet still finish as the #1 seed, Durant will probably be in the best position to win MVP.
i) He doesn't have better stats than other top candidates, which is why he'll need the #1 seed
ii) Stop referring to players from past seasons - he isn't competing against them. He's competing against the candidates this season.
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That's the only way he wins MVP.
Nah, they can still both be healthy and one of them takes it out if the Warriors grab the #1 seed.
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nikkas gon be furious when Steph and KD become the first duo to share the MVP 
You do realize that what is "typical" doesn't apply anymore when your team already got the #1 last year without you even being on it.
You think so much of those Vegas odds, why weren't Durant/Curry the heavy favorites for MVP then, when those same odds show that everyone expected the Warriors to finish as the top seed?
You literally just referenced what typically happens in past seasons earlier in this comment, now are trying to claim that what happens in past seasons is irrelevant.
The Bulls only got one win more than the Spurs in 2011, yet Rose still won MVP with inferior stats to the other contenders. And the way the season narrative had been going it's likely he would have still had that MVP even if the Spurs had finished with one more win than the Bulls, because the Spurs didn't have a single dominant candidate like the Bulls did.
Lakers had nearly 10 fewer wins than the Celtics in 2008, Kobe still won MVP with inferior stats to Lebron and other candidates.
Suns weren't close to the 1-seed in 2006, Nash still won MVP with stats inferior to the other candidates.
You can't claim that the MVP is always going to rely on the #1 seed and the stats alone. The season narrative mattered. In part, Nash and Kobe and Rose won their MVPs due to things that had happened in previous seasons (Nash had won the last year and looked even better in 2006, Kobe was due) or in the offseason (Celtics were loaded by the creation of the superteam and everyone expected them on top, no one wanted to vote for Lebron due to the Decision).
Narratives matter to voters. That's been proven over and over. You're claiming that Curry being last year's MVP, the Warriors blowing it in the Finals, and Durant being added to a team that already won 73 games without him are all going to be irrelevant to MVP voting. That's ridiculous.
How about a ban bet. If Durant/Curry finish with the top seed and neither wins MVP, you'll disappear from this forum just as long as you did last year when the Warriors lost.
If the scenario as I stated happens (Cavs win the East, Durant/Curry both stay healthy, Spurs don't get the #1 seed behind a dominant Kawhi and Rockets/Thunder remain outside the top 2/3 spots), and Lebron doesn't win MVP, I'll disappear for that same length of time.
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nikkas gon be furious when Steph and KD become the first duo to share the MVP
Kobe and Shaq were the first co MVPs
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You do realize what teams did last season is basically irrelevant, right?You do realize that what is "typical" doesn't apply anymore when your team already got the #1 last year without you even being on it.
i) I don't think "so much" of those Vegas odds, I simply used it as reference to contest who you thought the pre-season favorite for MVP was
ii) Curry was the second favorite (odds wise)
iii) Because those odds were down to what video game #s Westbrook would put up without Durant with what was deemed a competent supporting cast
SMH.You literally just referenced what happens in past seasons earlier in this comment, now are trying to claim that what happens in past seasons is irrelevant.
The trend of 'best player on the best team' is relevant, what past players averaged and how many games past teams won is irrelevant.
i) The Bulls still had the #1 seed and the Spurs didn't have a clear standout performer (Parker leading scorer with 17.5 ppg)
ii) Lakers had the #1 seed in the West and nobody on the Celtics had better individual stats than Kobe (Pierce leading scorer with 18.9 ppg)
iii) Nash's 2006 MVP win is part white vote, part exception to the rule and part the changing of how MVP was judged (which also ties in with Kobe's MVP a few seasons later)
Being the best player on the best team is the most dominant and current trend, with exceptions of players who standout above the rest (see - LeBron in 2012) with a similar record. We're going off track here, like I said, LeBron will only win MVP if the Cavs get the #1 seed in the league (barring injuries to all the other candidates) and anything less than that won't be enough for him to win.
Who's arguing this? And how the fukk do you win MVP just off principle?Neither Curry nor Durant should be getting MVP just off principle
But my gut tells me Westbrook might snatch it at the end of the year if he wills his team to the playoffs he deserves it
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assessments because you said Anthony Davis plays for the Hornets
assessments because you said Anthony Davis plays for the Hornetsthey shouldnt get it off the principal that two former MVPS are on the same team
