You realize that there is a difference maturity wise, between being 20 at the start of the year and maybe turning 20 at the end. That said, of the guys you listed only Kyrie turned 20 in his rookie season.
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You realize that there is a difference maturity wise, between being 20 at the start of the year and maybe turning 20 at the end. That said, of the guys you listed only Kyrie turned 20 in his rookie season.
Rose was 20 as a rookie. KD is the only one that I named that wasn't. But whatever.
Ha, you already know who the CACs are gonna side with.
Amazing, they'll side with BILLIONAIRES while arguing that millionaires are overpaid
Dude, you don't see guys who go to college making that type of impact either.
Out of Bron, Carmelo, and Dwayne Wade, it was WADE who was the late bloomer. Bron and Melo spent a collective 1 year in college.
Name one guy since Tim Duncan, who's come out of college after 4 years and had a better rookie year than Lebron did?
Brandon Roy is the ONLY rookie of the year since Duncan to win the trophy and he averaged 4 points less than LeBron did.
With YOUR logic, players who spend 4 years in college should have a marked advantage over the high-school players, but they don't. Guys should come out of college averaging 28 a game and wayyyy better than the guys who are straight out of high school, which they're not. They're the ones who usually end up sitting on the bench behind, Lebron, Kobe, Amare, KG, etc. . .
It's not that 1 and doners or HSers weren't making the type of impact that Jordan or Chamberlain did, it's that NOBODY makes that type of impact, whether they come out of HS or go to college for 1 or 4 years.
All your argument just shows that competition is tougher these days for young players and it's harder for somebody to come out of nowhere and be wayyy more talented than everybody else like those guys did. Kareem and Wilt wouldn't average that today in their rookie years because there's more great athletes playing in the league.
I also, don't agree with the NFL's handling of it. I mean Maurice Clarett was 6'1 and 220 at 19 years old. He was bigger than Barry Sanders and Emmitt Smith EVER were
There's a kid playing high school football this year who benches 500 lbs.
There's another kid who was 6'4" and 400lbs and was bigger than ANY player in the NFL.
The idea that those dudes aren't physically mature is insane.
Mike Tyson was knocking 30 year olds out at 18 and was heavyweight champion by 20. You don't have to be physically mature to do that?
People mature at different times. There's a lot of guys who at 18 are as physically mature as they're ever gonna be.
Don't know about you, but I don't like watching young brothas from the ghetto get exploited by a capitalistic machine that doesn't allow them to make a living from their own labor. Slavery ended a long ass time ago, but somebody forgot to tell the NCAA that.
And funny how nobody cares about "fans best interest" in ANY other sport in ANY other part of the world.
You're telling me that the only sports in the ENTIRE WORLD that you have to be "mature" to play are American basketball and American football? Because magically, no other sports in the ENTIRE WORLD force athletes to work for free in college when they have prodigious talents that could allow them to be paid immediately. Name one.
Yes, Kobe Bryant and Lebron James, to savants don't have any BB IQ.
Did yo ass used to watch the Knicks/Pacers debacles during the John Starks/Antonio Davis era?
That shyt was just fundamental excellence, I guess.
Dude, the rest of those jobs you're just not ABLE to do at 18. It's been proven that 18 year olds could do that job. Those other jobs have an EDUCATIONAL prerequisite to do the job. . . Professional athlete doesn't tend to the be the type of job with an educational prerequisite, which is why NO ONE ELSE IN THE WORLD requires that athletes go to college, except American football and basketball.
Dude, that is NOT your place to tell grown men what they "need" to experience. Aint nobody forcing Justin Bieber or the Olsen Twins to "experience" college. Aint nobody forcing them tennis players or soccer players to "experience" a damn thing or even hockey or baseball players.
You nikkaz acting like you know what's best for everybody's individual situation are the worst.
You know what was best for a lot of these dudes? Getting their little brothers & sisters out of the ghetto before they get robbed, raped, shot & killed. That's what's best for these dudes.
Being able to eat a decent meal every day and make sure that your mama can do the same might be what's best for a lot of these dudes.
It aint just about YOUR entertainment. This is people's lives here. Dudes have a lottery ticket that they can't cash and save their own and other people that they love lives because of racist CACs and the negroes who enable their prejudiced asses.
Says who?
The game has changed, the dudes who fared so well in 1960 when there were only 5 athletic Black dudes in the whole league might not have fared so well in a world where there's thousands of dudes who are more athletic and prepared than the 8 guys that they played against then.
That's why guys who go to college for 4 years don't dominate anymore than everyone else and matter of fact, virtually ALL of the dominant players the past 15 years either came straight out of HS or 1 year out of college
Matter of fact, a dude from Harvard researched it and found out that high-schoolers were on average more successful than everyone else
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2004/05.27/01-mccann.html
Can you also name Michael Olowokandi? Pervis Ellison? LaRue Martin? Chris Washburn? Adam Morrison?
Because the guys make more money because they get to maximize their earning potential.
Kobe and LeBron and KG all got multiple max deals because they started getting paid at 18 instead of 20 or 22.
You might as well have quoted the posts that addressed what you had to say already. I've been pretty thorough.
You are right and that only further supports my point.
Some if y'all nikkas r weirdo s. Always in other men pocket's. Man fukk those nikkas, I dgaf how much paper they get,all they gonna do is go broke anyway. Either u can play or not
Too many of the youth don't understand this. Basketball is becoming like Soccer in this sense. There literally so many leagues in Soccer that literally a so-so cat in the English Premiership could still make millions in a smaller league like Liga MX or even Serie A (its now that kind of League imo). A dude like San Antonio's Leonard, who is shaping up to be one of the best young player in the NBA could be literally THE MAN in Spain (if it was just about money).
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Leonard will make way more money in San Antonio than he would in Spain.
I'm talking about at the inception of his career...now he will based off performance...but as an 18 year old with his athleticism and skill-set...dude woulda got the equivalent of a max contract in a overseas league. I was unclear in my post my bad.
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when he was a rookie, he was a first round draft pick.
He earned more than what a star playing for Barcelona or Real Madrid would have earned after a few Euro League runs.
Even as an 18 year old kid, he'd probably been better off going to college because he was a no-name and not an NBA prospect like a Mundiay is.
IIRC, Stephen Jackson did this.
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There's 60 draft picks regardless. This hurts fringe level college talent, but not vets.
I'll concede Leonard as a bad example
Don't let it ruin my point of the fact there are a buncha mid level/bench guys that could do more winning an get more clock overseas.
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Duncan and Shaq did tho.
Duncan was All NBA, but he didnt reach his prime until a few years later. Same with Shaq.
IMO, I think the younger players are reaching their primes earlier and sustaining them longer.
It took them years to reach their respective primes, yes. They were still great from the jump though.
I'm not sure if they are reaching their primes earlier persay. I mean you look at most greats and they peaked between 25-30 generally. Thats around the same age you see guys peaking now give or take a year maybe. Guys are certainly hanging on longer but I think that is attributable to advances in conditioning and medicine more so than their ages.
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fam, Anthony Davis is probably the best player in the NBA this season at 21.
