NBPA Will Seek Lower Age Limit

[AVXL]

This just negotiating. The players put this out and say hey we drop this if you drop that owners. Such as no lower age if no hard cap.

This is an underrated post. Owners won't be able to cry poor this time b/c of the rising values of teams, the new TV deal & the rising popularity of the game globally. I don't think this is as big of an issue as it was maybe 10 years ago. Personally I'm in favor of the age limit staying the same or going to 20. Yes in other industries people are able to enter that workforce when they are able, but I have no problem with a league having a rule about the minimum age someone can be eligible to join it. Plus I think the overall level of NBA basketball has gotten better by players either going to college or going overseas...that has to be apart of the discussion too (that the quality of play has improved with the age restrictions)

 

[FTBS]

fam, Anthony Davis is probably the best player in the NBA this season at 21.

And how much better is he than a rookie Duncan or Shaq or Dream?

 

[mastermind]

And how much better is he than a rookie Duncan or Shaq or Dream?

and lets step back about this. Can someone explain to me why this actually matters? Damn, it really matters that Joe Smith had a better rookie year than Kevin Garnett!

Look how important it is that Mike Miller was a greater impact player his rookie year than Tracy McGrady.

No one is sitting back thinking about how important it was for a layer to be great in their rookie year. This is a made up concern.

 

[NYC Rebel]

and lets step back about this. Can someone explain to me why this actually matters? Damn, it really matters that Joe Smith had a better rookie year than Kevin Garnett!

Look how important it is that Mike Miller was a greater impact player his rookie year than Tracy McGrady.

No one is sitting back thinking about how important it was for a layer to be great in their rookie year. This is a made up concern.

Very made up.

 

[010101]

Too many of the youth don't understand this. Basketball is becoming like Soccer in this sense. There literally so many leagues in Soccer that literally a so-so cat in the English Premiership could still make millions in a smaller league like Liga MX or even Serie A (its now that kind of League imo). A dude like San Antonio's Leonard, who is shaping up to be one of the best young player in the NBA could be literally THE MAN in Spain (if it was just about money).

I'm talking about earlier than that

we see that ranking basically begins at pre-school these days

so if you identify your child has the will and talent to play
and you have the resources and intelligence

you should groom them through the foreign system rather than aau/highschool/college

I'm looking at it from a purely $$$$$$ stand point

what is the earliest I can get paid/who will pay the most etc.+

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

You might as well have quoted the posts that addressed what you had to say already. I've been pretty thorough.

Thoroughly wrong.

Just admit you got nothin' and move on.

Some if y'all nikkas r weirdo s. Always in other men pocket's. Man fukk those nikkas, I dgaf how much paper they get,all they gonna do is go broke anyway. Either u can play or not

That's because you're either a CAC or an uncle tom who don't mind watching his people get raped by the system.

I give a fukk when Black folks are being held down.

Now, if they get money and waste it, that's on them, but I'll fight for any young Black man or woman to be able to make a living, especially when CACs are making billions off of them.

i don't get why the NBPA cares about this, wouldn't it benefit the current players way more with an increased/intact age limit?

Not really, LeBron, Kobe, and KG all benefited from being able to sign 3 huge deals because they started years earlier. That makes the union more powerful if guys careers are longer and they are able to get bigger contracts.

This is an underrated post. Owners won't be able to cry poor this time b/c of the rising values of teams, the new TV deal & the rising popularity of the game globally. I don't think this is as big of an issue as it was maybe 10 years ago. Personally I'm in favor of the age limit staying the same or going to 20. Yes in other industries people are able to enter that workforce when they are able, but I have no problem with a league having a rule about the minimum age someone can be eligible to join it. Plus I think the overall level of NBA basketball has gotten better by players either going to college or going overseas...that has to be apart of the discussion too (that the quality of play has improved with the age restrictions)

Really? People are forcing people to draft players who aren't ready?

It would be like me saying, the quality of Hip-Hop would be better if we only let people 25 and older make it.

See how retarded that sounds?

If a 17 year old can rhyme like Rakim, let his ass rhyme.

If a nikka is 30 and wack, kick his ass out.

This is about exploitation of young Black kids by the NCAA and the NBA not wanting to hand out 3 max contracts to these young homies.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

I'm talking about earlier than that

we see that ranking basically begins at pre-school these days

so if you identify your child has the will and talent to play
and you have the resources and intelligence

you should groom them through the foreign system rather than aau/highschool/college

I'm looking at it from a purely $$$$$$ stand point

what is the earliest I can get paid/who will pay the most etc.+

its like that in Soccer. La Maisa, Barcelona's youth academy, starts when you are like 10 years old...they signed Messi when he was 13 away from his native Argentina. You can sign soon to a big academy and grow there not only learning the game but also the philosophy of that team as well. Half the Spanish national team that pretty much was the untouchable best team in the world for the past 6-7 years all came from La Maisa.

To me this is much more responsible and much more forward than the current college system. There isn't some veneer of "education" like here, over there those kids are in SCHOOL, and practice is never more than 90 mins. And when they are 16-18, the academy has made sure they have all the tools to enter the professional sports world equipped. Its why you don't see the implosion many of our athletes have here as opposed to over there. To my knowledge, players don't get as fukked over on their contracts as often in Europe either.

 

[010101]

its like that in Soccer. La Maisa, Barcelona's youth academy, starts when you are like 10 years old...they signed Messi when he was 13 away from his native Argentina. You can sign soon to a big academy and grow there not only learning the game but also the philosophy of that team as well. Half the Spanish national team that pretty much was the untouchable best team in the world for the past 6-7 years all came from La Maisa.

To me this is much more responsible and much more forward than the current college system. There isn't some veneer of "education" like here, over there those kids are in SCHOOL, and practice is never more than 90 mins. And when they are 16-18, the academy has made sure they have all the tools to enter the professional sports world equipped. Its why you don't see the implosion many of our athletes have here as opposed to over there. To my knowledge, players don't get as fukked over on their contracts as often in Europe either.

the international scene=club/team investing in player from youth through development will pay for housing education medical bills etc.
contract with $$$$$$ free to get endorsement deals

the American way/us system=exploiting player for as long as possible
gotta pay for aau/prep/private school then play for a million/billion dollar institution that will give you zero percent of the profit they make off your physical labor a.k.a college+

 

[Black Magisterialness]

the international scene=club/team investing in player from youth through development will pay for housing education medical bills etc.
contract with $$$$$$ free to get endorsement deals

the American way/us system=exploiting player for as long as possible
gotta pay for aau/prep/private school then play for a million/billion dollar institution that will give you zero percent of the profit they make off your physical labor a.k.a college+

Sounds fukked up, but yeah that's it in a nutshell. Its more complex than that but even the ownership, when it comes to the players is better. He'll a player can block a trade. Or if a young player wants more playing time he can go on loan to basically any team in the world that wants him to sharpen his skills and get experience. As opposed to the NBA where if you get drafted and you ain't ready you just might get cut or sent to the D-Leauge for a fraction of what pros get. While in futbol, your contract is the one from your parent team so you can't get fukked out of your money if you go on loan.

Baseball's farm system is CLOSE to getting it right imo, but they still have to go through the shytty NCAA and don't pay their players shyt.

 

[010101]

Sounds fukked up, but yeah that's it in a nutshell. Its more complex than that but even the ownership, when it comes to the players is better. He'll a player can block a trade. Or if a young player wants more playing time he can go on loan to basically any team in the world that wants him to sharpen his skills and get experience. As opposed to the NBA where if you get drafted and you ain't ready you just might get cut or sent to the D-Leauge for a fraction of what pros get. While in futbol, your contract is the one from your parent team so you can't get fukked out of your money if you go on loan.

Baseball's farm system is CLOSE to getting it right imo, but they still have to go through the shytty NCAA and don't pay their players shyt.

imagine being able yo choose what city you play/live in

instead american athletes are traded like cattle

do better murica+

 

[DrX]

Thoroughly wrong.

Just admit you got nothin' and move on.



That's because you're either a CAC or an uncle tom who don't mind watching his people get raped by the system.

I give a fukk when Black folks are being held down.

Now, if they get money and waste it, that's on them, but I'll fight for any young Black man or woman to be able to make a living, especially when CACs are making billions off of them.



Not really, LeBron, Kobe, and KG all benefited from being able to sign 3 huge deals because they started years earlier. That makes the union more powerful if guys careers are longer and they are able to get bigger contracts.



Really? People are forcing people to draft players who aren't ready?

It would be like me saying, the quality of Hip-Hop would be better if we only let people 25 and older make it.

See how retarded that sounds?

If a 17 year old can rhyme like Rakim, let his ass rhyme.

If a nikka is 30 and wack, kick his ass out.

This is about exploitation of young Black kids by the NCAA and the NBA not wanting to hand out 3 max contracts to these young homies.

nikka please, these nikkas dont care about u......they get their $$$ and shyt on reg black folks, they give that $ right back

 

[NYC Rebel]

nikka please, these nikkas dont care about u......they get their $$$ and shyt on reg black folks, they give that $ right back

Someone has to care about you in order to issue concern?

 

[Listen]

I think they should have a real developmental league with real money it. If you could draft an 18 year old and retain his rights, pay him a signing bonus like baseball does, then stick him in your system without him taking up a roster spot, there is your solution. Dudes can get drafted once they hit 18, they can get a big signing bonus, but the mistake doesn't result in a clogged NBA roster with a guy whose not mature enough to pay dividends.

I love that about Baseball and their amateur draft process. It's like, OK, you have your slotted pick position, but then it becomes about sign-ability and if you think the guy you want at #6 will come to an agreement. It allows young men the chance at a nice chunk of money in a open market system, but they don't have to come anywhere near a MLB roster until the team thinks he's ready to help them win ball games.

 

[L. Deezy]

MIAMI BEACH, Fla. --

"If they were white and hockey players, they would be out there playing. If they were white and baseball players, they would be out there playing," Kohlman said. "Because most of them are actually African-American and are in a sport and precluded from doing it, they have to go into this absurd world of playing for one year."


http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/1...nticipates-clash-age-limit-nbpa-attorney-says

I get this.. but also, those sports have low ratings and more roster spots for the most part and non important college programs. College b bball is more suited to upping a players stock then D League. So tough call

 

[FTBS]

and lets step back about this. Can someone explain to me why this actually matters? Damn, it really matters that Joe Smith had a better rookie year than Kevin Garnett!

Look how important it is that Mike Miller was a greater impact player his rookie year than Tracy McGrady.

No one is sitting back thinking about how important it was for a layer to be great in their rookie year. This is a made up concern.

When other folks are gonna be able to get their money or how much they will be able to get is a made up concern. Why does that matter to people who aren't getting a cut of it? Why is it important that guys get in as soon as humanly possible? Detractors of age limits always point to the success of guys like Kobe and KG and the like as if an age limit is gonna keep guys out permanently or as if any of those guys didn't take a year or two or three to really come into their own at around the same age that they would allowed in with an age limit anyway. I don't see how players coming more physically and mentally developed can be a bad thing for a league and it's entertainment value.