Kenny West
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I'm late but this was great
*NEW* Kendrick Lamar - Untitled 2
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lol no it won't.
Nobody even talks about big Sean unless it's in passing on some "oh yeah he's dope too" type shyt
I think you're just gonna have to give this one up breh. Kendrick is dope and is going to be recognized as such for years to Coke. There's nothing you can do.
bigbadbossup2012
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So what songs from TPAB will be rememberd more than I DONT FUKK WITH YOU or BLESSINGS?
Apples to Oranges.
You're comparing 2 obvious radio singles to an album with zero radio singles.
TPAB will be remembered long after any Big Sean album. I fux with Big Sean too, but while dope, he's not really pushing any boundaries.
King Kunta is flames, and the first Untitled was made on a whim, never was apart of the album.How did this and the first Untitled not make the cut but "King Kunta" did?
This is the thing with you breh. When you're not kicking woat arguments, sometimes you start off on a good foot then you just fukk it up
Piff Perkins
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@bigbadbossup2012 I gotta disagree, although I respect you for making your case. When you say there's nothing interesting about Kendrick's flow I don't get it. If there's one thing that can't be questioned it's his flow and ability to rap. Even in that song, the way he weaves in and out of the beat...the way he changes the direction of his flow or the structure of his bars...come on. He plays around with different flows effortlessly.
I think you have an argument in terms of melody. Kendrick is getting better at melody (You Ain't Gotta Lie comes to mind) but I'd agree he doesn't have the catchiest hooks. On this song the chorus reminds me more of Gil Scott-Heron than a catchy r&b track. Not every chorus is a hook, nor does it have to be. Like Scott-Heron he uses the chorus to drive the theme of the song. Repetitive revolving around repeating a phrase or line.
Kendrick can over rap tracks but I don't think he does it all the time. Think about bytch Don't Kill My Vibe.
At the end of the day I think he's very talented, and perhaps more importantly surrounds himself with more talented people. TPAB is basically an all star album, production wise.
I think you have an argument in terms of melody. Kendrick is getting better at melody (You Ain't Gotta Lie comes to mind) but I'd agree he doesn't have the catchiest hooks. On this song the chorus reminds me more of Gil Scott-Heron than a catchy r&b track. Not every chorus is a hook, nor does it have to be. Like Scott-Heron he uses the chorus to drive the theme of the song. Repetitive revolving around repeating a phrase or line.
Kendrick can over rap tracks but I don't think he does it all the time. Think about bytch Don't Kill My Vibe.
At the end of the day I think he's very talented, and perhaps more importantly surrounds himself with more talented people. TPAB is basically an all star album, production wise.
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
Ok name some songs then buddy
This is the thing with you breh. When you're not kicking woat arguments, sometimes you start off on a good foot then you just fukk it up
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
No radio singles? Does he have a major record deal? are his songs being marketted on radio. Is he getting time slots on talk shows and award shows?Apples to Oranges.
You're comparing 2 obvious radio singles to an album with zero radio singles.
TPAB will be remembered long after any Big Sean album. I fux with Big Sean too, but while dope, he's not really pushing any boundaries.
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
He plays around with different flows but they're all shytty flows.
He doesnt have any memorable flows in his entire career,NONE.
I'm wrong?
Name the kendrick flows he had the whole country reciting
ALA
Mase: "you can come all you want to...." "now trick what lace who,that aint what mase do"
Biggie: "B.I.G, POPPA no info for the DEA....." "armed and dangerous,aint too any can bang with us" "who the fukk is this paging me at ...."
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan i could name a million more.
This nikka's flows are ass
Piff Perkins
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Hold on, you're now arguing the absence of a recognizable flow=having trash flows? What? If you can flow you can flow, it's really that simple. Biggie would have a dope flow without that DEA line. Nas' flow is largely the Queens multi syllable rhyme pattern. Does that mean his flows are wack, since he got it from somewhere else?
Kendrick has demonstrated a pretty solid grasp of the Queens flow, the more melodic west coast flows, etc. Dude sounds like Kurupt more often than not...are you gonna question Kurupt's flow next? Come on.
You're veering into odd territory now breh. I don't like Drake but dude can rap and flow. I don't really like Cole but he can do the same. The flow just gets you in the door though. I'm more interested in what you say and how you say it. And on both levels Kendrick stands out.
bigbadbossup2012
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If you're flow is not catchy and doesnt make the masses want to repeat,THEN IT'S WACK. That's my point. ANd KENDRICK'S FLOWS dont do that to the general public.
Aint no "if you can flow,you can flow"
There's levels.Kendrick is a low level forgettable song making weirdo that makes weird alien voices that dont go over well.
By the way kurupt's flows aint shyt either though i'd put him ahead of kendrick.
He doesnt have alot of landmark flows himself
you were trying to compare Kendrick to his peers in terms of memorable music, right?
Replace "Blessings" and "IDFWU" with "0 to 100" and "10 Bands"
