New York Rappers Get Catapulted Into Greatness With The Smallest Sample Size

[Wacky D]

see. but thats what I'm saying. it was only a few cats who was truly on that hatin shyt. and u named one of em. and guess what?. just like u said. he still on that bullshyt. but from a street perspective. for the most part. if the shyt was dope. nikkas fukked wit it. nikkas favorites was NY artists for the most part but u gotta think about the shyt. NY and East Coast damn near singlehandedly holds down all time lists. and rightfully so. we the mecca of the shyt so majority of the greatest comes from here. that don't mean nikkas was on some straight up hater shyt like the south tries to say.

nah man.

it was way more than a few. i used to have to go to bat for foreign artists majority of the time. from kids to adults. streets to herbs. and new york was worse than philly.

other coasts deserved to be mad breh. but i'll say this. i think the south is still mad in 2015 cuz they dont really have any goats.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

nah man.

it was way more than a few. i used to have to go to bat for foreign artists majority of the time. from kids to adults. streets to herbs. and new york was worse than philly.

other coasts deserved to be mad breh. but i'll say this. i think the south is still mad in 2015 cuz they dont really have any goats.

Lol what

Scarface ain't from the South? Easily one of the most influential rappers ever.

 

[Wacky D]

Lol what

Scarface ain't from the South? Easily one of the most influential rappers ever.

hes a sometimesy candidate, depending on who you ask.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

wrong. the way y'all nikkas talk, you was obviously hating from day one.

Um no, everybody fukked with Run DMC, LL Cool J, Public Enemy, etc. . .If you didn't like them, you just didn't like Hip-Hop

You could put together a top 10 greatest of all time list, and all those artist could legitimately be NY artist. We just GOAT nikka

No Pac, Ice Cube, or Scarface = Bullshyt ass Top 10

well for starters, theres a gang of all-timers who preceded rakim, who rakim looked up to

And yet, NONE of them sound like him

for instance, alot of stuff rakim gets credited for was already being done by kool moe dee & others an entire 2 eras before rakim even stepped on the scene.

Like what?

like I said tho bro. I'm not denying bias. but nikkas act like they was just straight shytted on and hated on. when we was no more bias then they were.

Not true, New York was synonymous with Hip-Hop in the '80s. If you didn't like New York Hip-Hop, you just didn't like Hip-Hop, until guys like NWA and Geto Boys came out.

And how is BIG not the GOAT when he was better than Jay?

Maybe neither one of them are the goat?

They were just as biased out here on the west coast/cali in the 90s and especially after pac/death row and Westside connection started throwing shots at the east. The only difference is there weren't DJ's like Flex jumping into it out here that I can recall.

Pac and Death Row didn't start throwing shots until '94/'95.

Tim Dawg was talking about "fukk Compton" in like 1991/1992.

nikkaz were already talking shyt about how it was gold-tooth, Jheri curl music.

Scarface ain't from the South? Easily one of the most influential rappers ever.

And don't forget about 3 stacks whos obviously influenced Kendrick and like half the rappers in Hip-Hop

 

[High quality poster]

Um no, everybody fukked with Run DMC, LL Cool J, Public Enemy, etc. . .If you didn't like them, you just didn't like Hip-Hop

No Pac, Ice Cube, or Scarface = Bullshyt ass Top 10



And yet, NONE of them sound like him



Like what?



Not true, New York was synonymous with Hip-Hop in the '80s. If you didn't like New York Hip-Hop, you just didn't like Hip-Hop, until guys like NWA and Geto Boys came out.



Maybe neither one of them are the goat?



Pac and Death Row didn't start throwing shots until '94/'95.

Tim Dawg was talking about "fukk Compton" in like 1991/1992.

nikkaz were already talking shyt about how it was gold-tooth, Jheri curl music.



And don't forget about 3 stacks whos obviously influenced Kendrick and like half the rappers in Hip-Hop

Don't quote me you bytchass nikka

 

[Wacky D]

And yet, NONE of them sound like him



Like what?

And don't forget about 3 stacks whos obviously influenced Kendrick and like half the rappers in Hip-Hop

1.) what does that matter? i could say the same thing about rakim and ask how many all-time greats that came after rakim, sound like him? NONE.

2.) if you need to ask, then you shouldnt be arguing.

3.) lol @ 3 stacks influencing half the rappers in hip-hop. more like half of the weirdos & faq rappers.

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

hes a sometimesy candidate, depending on who you ask.

If Scarface is "sometimes" then half of the NY nikkas being mentioned in this thread are "never".

NY unarguably has the most hip hop legends... There's different levels to it though. nikkas like Jadakiss ain't seeing Face any day of the year period even though he's a legend in his own right.

 

[spliz]

Not true, New York was synonymous with Hip-Hop in the '80s. If you didn't like New York Hip-Hop, you just didn't like Hip-Hop, until guys like NWA and Geto Boys came out.

What's not true? What u saying has nothing to do with what I'm sayin. I'm sayin us New Yorkers get criticized for regional bias when they just as biased as us if not more..

 

[GeeEffKay]

Most of them thats listed were great rappers AND have shown to drop dope projects(or even just one good/great one). How many can we name from elsewhere with that combination?

 

[FruitOfTheVale]

Most of them thats listed were great rappers AND have shown to drop dope projects(or even just one good/great one). How many can we name from elsewhere with that combination?

Is that a serious question?

 

[Poh SIti Dawn]

E-40 is a better lyricist than Biggie, I don't see how people deny this. Dudes just don't understand him, he was way advanced for his time.

Why you think Big said "I f*ck with sprinkle me, duke"?

 

[blackslash]

As an ny resident this the truth
And I chalk this up as one of the reasons that south makes more innovative music than us...cuz their style doesn't get the legend love that our styles have gotten

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

It's like the people that rate them have no respect for longevity and body of work.. I've seen ONE good project place rappers into the conversation of all time greats...

Now I'm aware that things like untimely death o prison can make you try to forecast what they COULD have been and give them honorable mentions.. But this sh1t has gone too far imo..

Big L-No classic albums, 1 good album and a handful of punch line heavy features..

Big Pun-1 Classic album and 1 weed plate. That's it. And dudes have the nerve to say he would be the GOAT if he wasn't Latino.

Slick Rick-1 Classic album. 4 total retail releases in almost 30 years.

Jadakiss-Zero classics. Bad hairline.

Notorious B.I.G.- 2 classic albums. The greatest argument for a small body of work elite emcee (top 10 is fair). But you can't be the greatest EVER if you haven't succeeded through multiple eras...

Lauryn Hill- From Jersey but same sh1t. 1 Classic group album and 1 Classic Soul album where she only raps on 50% of the songs. Hasn't done sh1t for almost 20 years.

Mos Def- 1 regional classic and an overrated group album. Moved to Africa to duck child support. No grind.

GZA- Classic Swords and a handful of great Wu Tang verses.

Big Daddy Kane- Reign on the top was shorter than leps. Debut classic, really good follow up. Hasn't charted in 20 years.

I wish I could have Articulated this as great as you did. This shyt is very very true. And this is the ONLY REGION that has it like this. Anyone from another reason will get critiqued to death.

 

[Free White & 21]

Like this? lol

 

[Free White & 21]

if hes not poppin on the east, then hes not poppin all across the map.

and lets be reality, if juelz, jada & e-40 each did a show in the south, e-40 is drawing the lowest gate.

See this is why you're one of the worst posters in the booth

From texas to florida 40 will get more club dates than them nikkas and it's not even up for discussion. He always had those markets on lock. Juelz Santana my nikka?

You also said working with lil john didn't help him break his regional limitations.

So going gold with a critically acclaimed album, spearheaded by a top 10 Billboard Hot Rap Tracks single (which ushered in a nationwide recognition of the hyphy movement), followed up with a gold single (u and dat) is considered not breaking regional limitations in this post napster era?

It's 2015 and nikkas still smokin yola out of car antennas. Put the pipe down my nikka