NFL vs NBA on Christmas; the ratings are in

[RaspberryFitted]

The NBA equivalent being 1/5th of its teams while the entire NFL fanbase operates that way

so every NFL team is a legacy team? New England Patriots had hardcore fans before the year 2002?

Your argument holds more weight for College Football. I’m confused why it you believe it’s asinine for fans to root for individual players on the team.

Is that not why Fantasy Football is so big?

 

[King Poetic]

Aint no way in hell 22 million people watched Broncos/Rams

They was stuck at the airport because of southwest and spirit cancel flights

 

[IIVI]

A basic pass and catch touchdown gets Raider Nation to their feet.
A basic INT gets Cowboy Nation in a frenzy.

A Lamar Jackson touchdown also gets folks talking about contracts and get "Pay the man" trending.
A Justin Jefferson route got more than only Vikings fans talking about it.

The NBA and NFL are really not too dissimilar in this regard. There are both team and individual factors throughout basically every sport.

These are some pain points for the current NBA game:

I feel like the physicality has been lost in the game. A lot of games look like ymca pickup games to me

A lot of the time, the back and forth nature of the game is too fast and free flowing. A lot of segments in a game where guys are just hoisting up 3s, looking like they're at the Y.

Defense isn’t allowed and scoring 125 points per game is absurd. Not to mention the foul baiting, traveling and carrying, and inconsistent reffing.

it’s not a reason, but I dislike foul baiting/players selling the duck out of contact then giving the ref shyt for not calling it. Or even worse, getting the call

I didn't pull these quotes from this site either (from other places on social media), but you hear people on the coli mention stuff like this about the current NBA all the time. There's some honest sentiment to it.

There's simply something about big crowd, wide open field, big stadium, fast action, dynamic weather, fireworks, etc. that simply will draw people vs a small arena and small court.

NFL simply has a more "grand" feel to it.

The last time the NBA was electric was when the Warriors style of basketball was still novel. Now everyone does it and it's ran the style of play dry (ymca ball). However, that style of play is seen as statistically the most efficient, so I really don't know where it's about to go from here. Teams aren't going to stop that style of play for aesthetics over effectiveness.

 

[NYC Rebel]

so every NFL team is a legacy team? New England Patriots had hardcore fans before the year 2002?

Your argument holds more weight for College Football. I’m confused why it you believe it’s asinine for fans to root for individual players on the team.

Is that not why Fantasy Football is so big?

Almost every team in the NFL has a following based on love for their team and handed down generation to generation.

I know lifelong Seahawks fans who are that because of their dad. I know friggen Ravens fans who have 20 years deep love that their children are now fans

NBA fans are fans of said player and dont give two shyts about the team they may have moved on or retired. NBA is always reinventing itself around a new star (Kobe/Vince lazily being called “the next MJ”) and other garbage. League is 100% individual player driven which subjects it to inconsistent following.

Its a he said/he said driven league. Its a shytty business model. Meanwhile the NFL gets fan commitment to its teams which dont retire.

Talking about your marketing has been such and such for a while.

I dont even know who the fukk you are

 

[Starman]

When you compare like with like, football is the superior viewing experience. The importance of every third down, turnover...and forget about the importance of a game.

 

[RaspberryFitted]

Almost every team in the NFL has a following based on love for their team and handed down generation to generation.

I know lifelong Seahawks fans who are that because of their dad. I know friggen Ravens fans who have 20 years deep love that their children are now fans

NBA fans are fans of said player and dont give two shyts about the team they may have moved on or retired. NBA is always reinventing itself around a new star (Kobe/Vince lazily being called “the next MJ”) and other garbage. League is 100% individual player driven which subjects it to inconsistent following.

Its a he said/he said driven league. Its a shytty business model. Meanwhile the NFL gets fan commitment to its teams which dont retire.

Talking about your marketing has been such and such for a while.

I dont even know who the fukk you are

all that bullshyt you just typed up applies more so to college football, but you got it bruh. Nobody was even arguing against you nor do I disagree with committed fanbases — all I said was storylines and select players bring in revenue.

but just by you calling me out my name over that and bringing up however long you’ve done this shows what type of nikka you are.

nikkas can’t even simply discuss sports without acting like a lil hoe. Talk like that to your bytch at home breh.

 

[NYC Rebel]

all that bullshyt you just typed up applies more so to college football, but you got it bruh. Nobody was even arguing against you nor do I disagree with committed fanbases — all I said was storylines and select players bring in revenue.

but just by you calling me out my name over that and bringing up however long you’ve done this shows what type of nikka you are.

nikkas can’t even simply discuss sports without acting like a lil hoe. Talk like that to your bytch at home breh.

No. It applies to the NFL as well.

All you have to do is read the responses by Eagles fans after they won the first Super Bowl. had fans talking about they didn’t cry at the grandfather‘s funeral but cried for the first time after the Eagles won because they know how much it meant to them.

shyt like that just doesn’t happen with the NBA outside of Knicks, Celtics, Lakers, and Sixers fans. The league barely respects the history of its teams. You are out of your damn mind if you think the NFL is driven by the he said/he said mantra like the NBA. The NBA leaves itself subject to the ups and downs around individual player love. The NFL knows it’s going to get love directed towards its teams. Everything else is just a bonus. They are just as many patriots fans invested in the patriots with Tom Brady gone as when he was there. Sorry to tell you. They’re not disappearing like when Jordan left.

 

[DonFrancisco]

NBA and MLB have given up on the domestic market and concentrate on international markets. When I was living in Panama outside of a few US bars and expats places, most places show baseball and Panama Network tv shows baseball matches. In most places I've visited NFL gear is non existent except in Mexico (even then i saw more people with NBA gear).

That said the NBA tv product is horrible and a lot of NBA teams aren't well run.

The NFL is also a scares product and shown mostly on network tv without a cable subscription. The nba since going on Disney has shown Less network game. I honestly was very surprised they showed 5 games on Christmas without me having to go on ESPN. I also do not have cable so it was easie for me to get invested into all 5 games.

 

[DonFrancisco]

Also for Christmas games, the NBA should put on historic match ups and rivalries like Lakers and Celtics.

 

[The_Sheff]

It’s funny how in previous times there was this unspoken truce where the NFL didn’t play on Thursday because that was college football day, the NFL has now run both college football and the NBA off of Thursday nights. They didn’t play on Christmas because that was an NBA tradition, and now they said fukk that, and putting up numbers on Christmas.

They making money hand over fist over that and running over everyone.

 

[315]

All you have to do is read the responses by Eagles fans after they won the first Super Bowl. had fans talking about they didn’t cry at the grandfather‘s funeral but cried for the first time after the Eagles won because they know how much it meant to them.

I know young Bills fans that were born after Kelly retired that act like they were there for all the SB losses
There are NFL fanbases that are entities themselves. RaiderNation, Bills Mafia, The 12th Man etc. Does the NBA have that?

 

[NYC Rebel]

I know young Bills fans that were born after Kelly retired that act like they were there for all the SB losses
There are NFL fanbases that are entities themselves. RaiderNation, Bills Mafia, The 12th Man etc. Does the NBA have that?

They don’t. Why is that dude lying to himself acting as if the NFL is individual player driven to that of the NBA? It isn’t. NBA fans do not love their teams the way NFL fans do. To lie to oneself and say it’s only in college

 

[CrimsonTider]

You’re not very good with nuance, are you?

What?

I’m agreeing with you. Football will always be bigger than basketball but the nba is doing itself a disservice by having the most meaningless regular season in sports

How can a sport thrive when Players like KD are requesting trades after just signing a contract. How can you build allegiances teams?

Even the Coli is less engaged with the nba regular season Than it use to be. The nba Stan’s on here use to care then they went to fake caring now they have lost interest

 

[staticshock]

End of the day more Americans would rather watch Mahomes throw 75 yard deep passes or Josh Allen truck some defenders than Luka Doncic take step backs.

Even as far as instinct goes, more fast-paced, intense plays will make for more casual entertaining TV than balanced finesse with consistent scoring.

Additionally, the NBA is getting much more international by the year so domestic fans are somewhat less tuned-in.

End of the day, cacs not watching the nba because they hate how players spoke out against trump. The same white folks who watch the nfl aren’t the same ones who watch the nba

 

[NYC Rebel]

What?

I’m agreeing with you. Football will always be bigger than basketball but the nba is doing itself a disservice by having the most meaningless regular season in sports

How can a sport thrive when Players like KD are requesting trades after just signing a contract. How can you build allegiances teams?

Even the Coli is less engaged with the nba regular season Than it use to be. The nba Stan’s on here use to care then they went to fake caring now they have lost interest

My bad