"nice guys aren't really nice" is a Cop out women use

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"Any man that calls himself a "nice guy" is not a nice guy. He's more than likely an a$$hole playing the simping game terribly."



i swear a certain poster in this thread shouldn't even respond esp. with the subterfuge, not to mention the continued statement which is convoluted and superficial......if all you see is dikk or simply the physical , you in seriously bad fukking shape and suffering from some neurosis, Not to mention the overt generalization based on the bullshyt dudes you've probably dealt with. Nice guys do exist but the majority of women don't know or have become so ignorant that they are use to the stereotypical thug/bad boy, who treats them like shyt. (Not to mention the women who treats the guy like shyt and that guy becomes "the a$$hole" and in turn dog the shyt out of women) And choose not to look outside of what they are use to. The Gentleman. To look at a dude who is in fact a nice guy and see him as "weak", you would be wrong. Lets be real, no one wants some they can pushover. However being nice and pushover are two entirely different things.....that folks like yourself have a tendency to confused the two and there lies the problem.

at the dumb asses even dapping that post. :snoop:
 
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That saying has always been stupid. OF COURSE he's nice because he likes you. He might be nice in general but he'll go out of his way because he's interested. How women have preverted this into something bad, I'll never know. So when a girls feeling me and she does me a favor like running to the store or cooking something, you think she does that for everybody or just the nikka she likes :francis:
 
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:heh: I'm a nice guy.

Nice to the point where girls' suitors, wanna-be boyfirends, boyfriends and husbands have tried to beef/kill me.

But I'm not ever trying to fukk nobody, I'm just a nice guy.

Leaves chicks baffled and confused.

But since I'm NOT trying to fukk, all of the sudden I'm an a$$hole who was leading them on. I'm playing "emotional games", even if they're in a relationship or married. :heh:
 

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Women dont like good men

This is something we just gotta deal with
If you have a college degree or a very good job and doing something 4 urself

Tell women uv been to jail Or something
dont let them Know ur a good dude
 
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Most nice guys are products of single mother households.

Most single moms aren't going to sit down and tell you about the "ugly/dark side" of females.End of the day, they really can't.It takes a man to really be able to explain, in depth, the pain a woman can cause a man.

Single moms most of the time have already been burnt by some slick willy nikka.In turn, they try to raise their sons to be the exact opposite "You're not going to be anything like your father:scust:" So they turn their sons into lil sweetheart, gentlemen.Deep down inside, they know a lot of females want a guy with some "beast" in him(beauty & the beast dynamic/contrast between masculinity & femininity), but they don't know how to convey it to their sons.They think it might be too much of a negative outlook.He might start looking at women(even his mom) dffferently.Can't have that with their lil gentlemen, sweetheart who's going to be "different than his daddy"

The most successful a woman is going to be with that is raising a good "adult".An "adult" is somebody who doesn't end up in jail, graduates HS/College, and is able to provide for themselves.A woman can raise a guy like that......but she can't raise a man.He can have all that and still be missing his "manliness" that void as it pertains to the opposite sex will always be there.

He has a clean record, graduated from college, own house etc.....But he's stuck being moms "lil gentlemen sweetheart".He's the "champion" of his family.His grandmother, aunts, and female cousins tell him "how good of a man he is"....but outside of the four corners of his home/family life, he has zero luck with women:francis:

Not only that, but a lot of dudes raised by single moms have that :cape:in em.They grew up watching their mother struggle, wishing somebody would come save her/them.So when they grow up, they're extra tenderhearted, and eager please(in regards to women).They become the guy they always wished would come save them.Problem with that, you have female sociopaths out here.The can see a nikka with a bloody heart like that coming from a mile away.They'll play him out of his socks.He'll be food out here.

So while his intentions to be nice were genuine, he soon learns that the way his mother taught him was erroneous.Itdoesn't work out here in the real world.He'll have to forge into that "Master Key that can unlock many locks" on his own.

It might not be that he's a "fake nice" guy.He could be genuinely nice down to his bone marrow.It's just that the way he's been raised to be doesn't work & he can't evolve past it.The man is frustrated to the 10th power.And that's with a mother who at least tried.

If we moved on to another topic, the single mom/ "ratchets" are the ones raising heartless nikkaz.In a lot of ways, "heartless" will get you laid quicker than "tenderhearted".Some chicks like nikkaz like that.They see it as a challenge---ol "I bet I can make his heart turn warm" type airheads
 

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It really isn't. When I was a "nice guy" I was just really naive to what women wanted and how to align that with what I wanted, but my ultimate objective was to get laid like everyone else. It ain't until I learn to be who I am but use my nice guy angle the correct way that I started getting laid with the women I actually wanted. In truth everyone is a selfish a$$hole in some form or manner.
This is true and how most "nice guys" are really. OP just getting love cause this seems to be a safe haven for weak ass "nice guys" that think that's why they can't get any type of chicks. The shyt he talking about isn't the majority at all. Chicks know what dudes want but some cats come out trying some wildcat formation and when that shyt gets busted in the backfield crying like bytches that shyt didn't work.
 

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So when the girl at the cafe gives you an extra muffin or the girl at the office offers favors to help you, but stops after a while when she sees you aren't feeling her back, was she being "fake nice" too :francis:
Yep. :francis:
Can we come to a consensus on the difference between "nice" and nice?
I like to say, I'm not a "nice guy", I'm a good guy. I help out folks, am courteous and polite and try to be an overall good person. I don't let people walk all over me. I don't have a problem saying 'no' if someone asks me a favor that inconveniences me or that I don't feel like doing. I'm honest as fukk with my intentions and wants (when practical) and am generally confident (even when I have no real reason to be). I don't get every girl I pursue, obviously, but I would like to think that no one can ever say that I'm a "nice" guy in the sense that we're talking about now. :manny:
 

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No it sounds better then what they really think which is nice guys are physically unattractive :sas1:


Basically this. If you're nice and attractive, I'll probably be interested. But if you're not attractive to me no amount of niceness is going to get you in.
:yeshrug:

It doesn't help their cause that a lot of "Nice Guys" have some kind of strike against them as far as physical attractiveness goes (fat, short, big head, etc.) and they're often socially awkward/retarded with low self confidence. It's like a perfect storm of flaws that just happen to make that particular human an undesirable person regardless of how "nice" they treat women. They'd strike out playing an a$$hole/thug role too b/c the problem is THEM.

Just gotta fix ya self and try again.
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So when the girl at the cafe gives you an extra muffin or the girl at the office offers favors to help you, but stops after a while when she sees you aren't feeling her back, was she being "fake nice" too :francis:

Wanna see the answer to this

Yes.
 

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Women just need to pick good men and we wouldn't have the rampant scurge of single mothers with fatherless kids:yeshrug:

Wow...life is just this simple, huh? Factors like educational background., poverty, racism, quality of upbringing, mental health, etc dont matter? Funny how these things matter when we talk about issues that affect black males and our "poor decisions".

Women don't like nice men. I have a buddy who's a legitimately good dude who just wants a relationship. He meets these women and puts in time getting to know them. He doesn't want sex he actually wants a relationship... Yet he's constantly taking L's....

I on the other hand am an a$$hole who has no interest in dating and I do just fine for myself. I don't even put effort in majority of the time and things tend to go in my favor. Women love to bytch to nice guys and claim there are no good men... The problem is they hate good men because they'd rather have the excitement factor than a good dude who treats them well

Ignorant horseshyt. If someone came in here yappin' about how black men hate education and love crime, and based it off some set of personal anecdotal experience that fool would be swimming in red, but for a lot of ya you dont mind painting a whole group as being mentally, emotionally, and intellectually inferior, and use demeaning and offensive stereotypes to accomplish it.

Think rationally. Humans regress to the mean...the bulk of our population desire a nice life, good spouse, blah blah, so when women talk about wanting a "nice guy", they dont mean they want to sacrifice having a partner they are attracted to, has a good personality, compliments them emotionally, etc. Nice is part of the equation.

Im sure you want a nice girl, right? But that doesnt mean you want that nice girl to look like shyt, have the personality of a pine cone, doesnt fit with you emotionally....so until then you sleep and have casual flings with women whom you're attracted to but arent interested in long term until you meet someone special.

Once you remove your biases when talking about others, things become a lot clearer..

So when the girl at the cafe gives you an extra muffin or the girl at the office offers favors to help you, but stops after a while when she sees you aren't feeling her back, was she being "fake nice" too :francis:

We dont know whether she is nice or not without more information. Judging by the hypothetical, she has interest in a man which prompted her to do things in order to communicate that interest to him. When it wasnt reciprocated, she stopped doing nice things. She had ulterior motives for doing those things, but we dont know how nice of a person she is. We just know she was interested in him.
 
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