"nice guys aren't really nice" is a Cop out women use

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Most nice guys are products of single mother households.

Most single moms aren't going to sit down and tell you about the "ugly/dark side" of females.End of the day, they really can't.It takes a man to really be able to explain, in depth, the pain a woman can cause a man.

Single moms most of the time have already been burnt by some slick willy nikka.In turn, they try to raise their sons to be the exact opposite "You're not going to be anything like your father:scust:" So they turn their sons into lil sweetheart, gentlemen.Deep down inside, they know a lot of females want a guy with some "beast" in him(beauty & the beast dynamic/contrast between masculinity & femininity), but they don't know how to convey it to their sons.They think it might be too much of a negative outlook.He might start looking at women(even his mom) dffferently.Can't have that with their lil gentlemen, sweetheart who's going to be "different than his daddy"

The most successful a woman is going to be with that is raising a good "adult".An "adult" is somebody who doesn't end up in jail, graduates HS/College, and is able to provide for themselves.A woman can raise a guy like that......but she can't raise a man.He can have all that and still be missing his "manliness" that void as it pertains to the opposite sex will always be there.

He has a clean record, graduated from college, own house etc.....But he's stuck being moms "lil gentlemen sweetheart".He's the "champion" of his family.His grandmother, aunts, and female cousins tell him "how good of a man he is"....but outside of the four corners of his home/family life, he has zero luck with women:francis:

Not only that, but a lot of dudes raised by single moms have that :cape:in em.They grew up watching their mother struggle, wishing somebody would come save her/them.So when they grow up, they're extra tenderhearted, and eager please(in regards to women).They become the guy they always wished would come save them.Problem with that, you have female sociopaths out here.The can see a nikka with a bloody heart like that coming from a mile away.They'll play him out of his socks.He'll be food out here.

So while his intentions to be nice were genuine, he soon learns that the way his mother taught him was erroneous.Itdoesn't work out here in the real world.He'll have to forge into that "Master Key that can unlock many locks" on his own.

It might not be that he's a "fake nice" guy.He could be genuinely nice down to his bone marrow.It's just that the way he's been raised to be doesn't work & he can't evolve past it.The man is frustrated to the 10th power.And that's with a mother who at least tried.

If we moved on to another topic, the single mom/ "ratchets" are the ones raising heartless nikkaz.In a lot of ways, "heartless" will get you laid quicker than "tenderhearted".Some chicks like nikkaz like that.They see it as a challenge---ol "I bet I can make his heart turn warm" type airheads

Great post. Many very good points.

My mom did her job raising me from a boy to a "young dude". Up to the point where I began understanding women in general, I only really knew my mom. Then through young adulthood I saw all the shenanigans the bad ones pulled and it began to darken me. Its bound to happen when you go from one extreme to another.

I was the nice guy who took the relationship I had with my mom and applied it to women I was interested in. Sometimes it would work, sometimes it wouldnt. But as I got older I definitely noticed that the truly bad ladies love excitement. Period. They never want to be "bored". Ultimately it just comes down to everyone's own personal judge of character. You have to mind your p's and q's and read the signs.

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It's a bunch of "physically attractive" guys who're are plagued by those issues, also.They get p*ssy by accident(because they're attractive to females), but they can't keep a chick around more than 30 days.

Oh my God YEEESSS! I dealt with a dude who had a nice face, gorgeous body, long dik, but he was damn near aspergers level with his socialization. Like, I could only get him to talk about four topics (video games, math, software engineering, working out, and sex). It was bad. He was short too and he complained about being a late bloomer in high school. Oh and he mostly fukked with white girls...sigh...So yeah, even attractive people become unattractive "Nice Guys" when they have those other flaws.

On a side note I'm so glad in not short women are so disgusted by short dudes and they'res not a damn thing they can do

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I used to LOVE short dudes, but then I met my 6'3" GAWD and :blessed::noah:
 

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"Nice guy" is code for "sucker". If you gotta make up your own adjectives to describe yourself then you already lost because you don't even know the game that you are playing...see "good woman". fukk being a nice guy...just be you. That said, I have noticed a trend of females questioning the sincerity of "nice guys" or ascribing every negative quality in the book to nice guys in order to deflect from their shytty decision making. There are some guys who are fronting but the great majority of "nice guys" just flat don't know any better. Think about it, who is gonna intentionally behave in a way that has proven to be unsuccessful in order to try to be successful :dwillhuh:. A lot of guys are convinced that this is the way to go. It's up to guys who know to put them up on game. It's up to them to listen. And it's up to chicks to keep it 100% and stop leading them on/using them.
 

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Nice guys don't realize that's not what turns women on.Women don't want to feel their better or even equal to you they want to be controlled and dominated

A women will lose attraction to you the minute she has to make a decision in the relationship instead of you
 

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That's not true at all :mjlol:
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Women don't like nice men. I have a buddy who's a legitimately good dude who just wants a relationship. He meets these women and puts in time getting to know them. He doesn't want sex he actually wants a relationship... Yet he's constantly taking L's....

I on the other hand am an a$$hole who has no interest in dating and I do just fine for myself. I don't even put effort in majority of the time and things tend to go in my favor. Women love to bytch to nice guys and claim there are no good men... The problem is they hate good men because they'd rather have the excitement factor than a good dude who treats them well

And you don't think his "L's" have anything to do with maintaining long term relationships being inherently more difficult and requiring more factors than just having sex with whoever and moving on?

I mean flip the argument. Many women are legitimately looking for a relationship and are probably also constantly taking L's. What does that say about men and what they like? Or does it suddenly not say anything about the opposite sex at all, and instead is about who that woman in choosing?

I swear, some of you are so biased against any and every perspective besides your own you should be studied.
 

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If you call yourself a nice guy you're not a nice guy.

If you call yourself respectful you're not respectful.

If you call yourself sensible you're not sensible.

These mufukkas on the coli today basically are saying that anything you proclaim about yourself is bullshyt.

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To a degree it is. It's one thing to be aware of the qualities you possess. It's another to isolate one and push it to the forefront like a badge of honor and expect to get certain things because of it. If you are nice or respectful or sensible it should be readily apparent and thusly you shouldn't really have to assert it yourself.
 

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And you don't think his "L's" have anything to do with maintaining long term relationships being inherently more difficult and requiring more factors than just having sex with whoever and moving on?

I mean flip the argument. Many women are legitimately looking for a relationship and are probably also constantly taking L's. What does that say about men and what they like? Or does it suddenly not say anything about the opposite sex at all, and instead is about who that woman in choosing? I swear, some of you are so biased against any and every perspective besides your own you should be studied.

It's two sided. It says something about the men they like and it says something about them as well. Same is true for the reverse. That said, you can't compare female Ls to male Ls because of the different value systems. Men generally get the stuff that women want (quality time, attention, non sexual affection) with there Ls while women generally get the stuff that men want (sex) with their Ls. No guy would consider a one night stand with no call back and L. No girl would consider a guy taking her out and being attentive and thoughtful but wanting to hold off on sex until the right time an L. Most women would prefer the long term relationship to having sex and moving on (at least they proclaim that they would), therefore it would stand to reason that a man looking to engage in such a relationship should have an easier time than a man that just wants to fukk and move on.
 

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If you call yourself a nice guy you're not a nice guy.

If you call yourself respectful you're not respectful.

If you call yourself sensible you're not sensible.

These mufukkas on the coli today basically are saying that anything you proclaim about yourself is bullshyt.

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I'm poor and overworked. :mjcry: Please let the Coli effect change my life.
 
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