"nice guys aren't really nice" is a Cop out women use

[SunZoo]

Men who call themselves "nice guys" are usually looking for a cookie (or some p*ssy) for exhibiting traits that resemble a decent human being. A truly nice person is nice without ulterior motives, not as a tactic to guilt trip somebody into sex or a relationship.

 

[Incogno]

You do realize that this can be done under the guise of friendship right? As a matter of fact, that's basically what the nice guy does.

Guys don't marry or really devote much time or effort to women that they don't want to fukk, I don't care how friendly she is. You are right about the importance of friendship but that indicator that you suggested is not a realistic or very effective one. The only true indicator is paying a attention and getting a handle on a guys character.

right...

by being friends with a man first and foremost...you learn about each others character through true interaction

i'm talking about true & real friendship...

a friendship that leads to marriage...




Yes...i already know a lot of men will be turned off by that....

 

[FTBS]

right...

by being friends with a man first and foremost...you learn about each others character through true interaction

i'm talking about true & real friendship...

a friendship that leads to marriage...




Yes...i already know a lot of men will be turned off by that....

That actually isn't true. Plenty of men want this. They want p*ssy to be a part of the equation as well but there are a lot of guys who wouldn't have an issue with the overall idea that you are presenting.

 

[WHIPPEDCream]

I don't care how nice you are.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

You're a liar. I asked a question. Somehow all the hateful misogynistic garbage that gets posted on here that questions everything about women as people isn't trolling, yet me asking if the same "dress" rules apply to Black men and how white people perceive them as it does to women and how men perceive them is trolling?

You're a coward that can't handle an opinion opposing yours being stated. You're even afraid to let it stand and be visible because other people might read it and see how hypocritical those that think like you are.

I didn't even post in that thread. I saw a troll comment and took action. Note yours is the only opposition comment deleted. You're the problem. Post better. This is a learning opportunity.

 

[WHIPPEDCream]

This thread reminds me of that kent boy.Why do some men think that just because they are "nice," they deserve you?I would say a girl has low standards for f*cking someone just because they're "nice."

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

Just so I am clear they get into relationships and act like jerks for the entirety of the relationship?

Yes

Thats what im.saying

 

[DrHackenbush]

Women associate niceness with dishonesty

 

[Remote]

I don't agree. You never did anything for anyone out of the goodness of your heart? I have, being nice is easy. Being a good person is easy. Being a jerk or a$$hole is hard, or at least i think so.

Yeah but when you do something out of the goodness of your heart, there's still a reason why you're doing it.

Even if it's something as trivial as "it makes me feel good to help others"...you're still getting something out of doing it.

That's why there's no such thing as totally selfless acts.

Maybe if you did something you really hated doing and there was no other apparent motivation...I might reconsider my view.

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

Women.jus need to stop making excuses

If you gonna mk A bad decision or fall for the loser go head

Jus Dont be angry when ur 30 plus with kids and no man wants u

 

[labelplant]

Being nice sucks, I'm a nice guy. Not as nice or I should say a sucker like I was for a while growing up, I didn't expect to get the puss off just being a nice guy. But I did expect for the feelings I showed be reciprocated to a certain extent. This went for men and women. No homo



Being nice sucks until you find someone that is nice just like yourself or can really appreciate your kindness and not try and take advantage of it. I'm a loyal, self sacrificing, legit nice dude. I can say that with full confidence. I have my flaws, I'm mad stubborn, and Kind of lazy from time to time.... but I'm nice to both males and females. Its really easy to figure out if a man is a nice guy or just a super simp or "nice guy in disguise" Just watch how he interacts around other men and his male friends.

If he's still that really nice guy when dealing with other men you should probably scoop him up. (If you really want a nice guy that is)



Over all I agree with OP, I've dealt with many many women most of which I had zero interest an that thought I was too nice in a manner of so many words. I've had female co-workers tell me "I'd run all over you" lol ok...If that's what they want to believe... Only to get mildly aroused when I got upset over something or put them or someone else in there place. Its really crazy, I don't know why women assume nice dudes are hoes or soft.

Exactly, what if you really are a nice guy?
I'm a nice person to women and men alike n/h.. unless ion like you but that's rare...

Certain women don't want that I understand. Not everyone is a good match but my thing is, than don't complain and give me a sob story how this guy did u grimy and cheated on you or used you for puss or beat them. Like YOU wanted an a$$hole, what did you think he was gonna be an a$$hole to everyone BUT you? When women tell me that they have multiple relationships of that nature in their past, i already know they're not for me from jump.

 

[The ADD]

Yes

Thats what im.saying

 

[MoonGoddess]

Yeah but when you do something out of the goodness of your heart, there's still a reason why you're doing it.

Even if it's something as trivial as "it makes me feel good to help others"...you're still getting something out of doing it.

That's why there's no such thing as totally selfless acts.

Maybe if you did something you really hated doing and there was no other apparent motivation...I might reconsider my view.

I have trust me, on more than one occasion. But you are right, even if its something as little as the act putting a smile on my face i still got sort of a momentary pleasure out of it. Its hard out chea for a people pleaser tho. My ex was one of these guys he fooled everyone including me to the point that when i found out his true character no one believed me and thought i was crazy. It is so hard to trust that some peoples niceness are genuine. So many people are users and abusers, looking out for only theirselves. I could never respect someone like that.
Shout out to all the genuinely good people out there.

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

If you caught fishes in the river by using A As ur bait

But never caught fishes in the river by using B as ur bait

What are u gonna keep using when u go to the river

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

This thread reminds me of that kent boy.Why do some men think that just because they are "nice," they deserve you?I would say a girl has low standards for f*cking someone just because they're "nice."

Kent is 5'3 and is a nerd

Has nothing to do with being nice