Nick Wright: "Kobe was never the best player in the league once in his career"

[Controversy]

Prime AI had an entire season shooting under 40% and Kobe was assigned to Rondo in 2010, where the game plan was dare him to shoot from deep by backing off him by 6 feet . Kobe wasn't guarding prime Westbrook because he only began reaching his prime in 2014 when Kobe was in the stage of being washed and too injured to even play . Bibby made maybe one or two all star teams and maybe one all NBA team. Try harder. I'm sure his defensive metrics are out of this world against Paul too . at LeBron getting cooked by Carmelo. You really believe that nonsense too I'm sure.

I've seen Melo give Bron 40 and shoot a game winner in his face

Who else is capable of holding AI scoreless for an entire half?

Kobe never backed down...nobody will acknowledge the fact Bron hides on D

He's a better help defender than on ball defender

 

[ISO]

Out rebounding Paul, Ray & KG by himself

I clearly remember Kobe blocking 4 shots in the close out game 5 against Orlando

I clearly remember Kob putting clamps on prime AI

I clearly remember Kobe asking to defend the best players

Bron don't want to defend the KD's & Kawhi's of the world

That s why Melo cooked his overrated self

Kobe better rebound he shot 6 of 24 in the game
A.I. got in Kobe's ass plenty of times, Kobe actually talks about it...
Pretend LeBron never asked to guard the best players brehs

Melo cooks LeBron?

 

[Controversy]

I swore I said Bron had two great defensive seasons...he was mediocre this year

Didn't want to defend Kawhi or KD

And I could have swore Kobe locked up Ray in game 7. So he out rebounded THREE hofers & locked up one

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Kobe better rebound he shot 6 of 24 in the game
A.I. got in Kobe's ass plenty of times, Kobe actually talks about it...
Pretend LeBron never asked to guard the best players brehs

Melo cooks LeBron?

I forgot LeBron got him that bad on the series. Someone pull the defensive metrics from even last years playoffs and during the season compared to Leonard too . Kobe stans are resorting to ignoring facts and just making shyt up these days

 

[Ben.]

Prime AI had an entire season shooting under 40% and Kobe was assigned to Rondo in 2010, where the game plan was dare him to shoot from deep by backing off him by 6 feet . Kobe wasn't guarding prime Westbrook because he only began reaching his prime in 2014 when Kobe was in the stage of being washed and too injured to even play . Bibby made maybe one or two all star teams and maybe one all NBA team. Try harder. I'm sure his defensive metrics are out of this world against Paul too . at LeBron getting cooked by Carmelo. You really believe that nonsense too I'm sure.

Smh dudes always bring up Ray Allen being locked up in 2010 but forget Fisher was the primary defender on Ray because Kobe didn't want to expand energy on defense to run around screens

 

[Ben.]

Lol dude said two great defensive seasons, Bron from 09-13 was better defensively than Kobe ever was. He just making sh1t up now

 

[AlainLocke]

Lol dude said two great defensive seasons, Bron from 09-13 was better defensively than Kobe ever was. He just making sh1t up now

Lebron is still a defensive playmaker...Kobe had been ass on defense since Shaq left and only played dedense when he had to.

Lebron anchored those Miami teams defensively.

nikkas actin like Kobe was Kawhi

 

[RammerJammer]

The revisionist history in this thread.....yikes

 

[rapbeats]

so you got a fuzzy memory of what happened to lebron versus the spur and he got swept.
plus, the loss to the mav's in his second appearance where he wilted and wade had to take over.
it was not till wade aided that nikka in the rampup process to win after a year of seasoning, AND ANOTHER RAMP UP FINALS APPEARANCE WITH WADE, did lebron win.

wade did not need a rampup with shaq to win, my nikka.
wade did not need two trips to the finals to learn how to win,...he won the first time by willing his way.

bron always needed rampup wins to win a title.
even in high school bron needed to ramp up, and it was the same in the pros.
except in the pros he needed a staff with championship pedigree from the front office to a superstar who converted by willing himself in wade to do it.

so, just stop with the homer shyt, dookie lips.
maybe eating all that horse shyt on the ground at your ship parade made y'all lose your memories.

or maybe all the liter fluid on the jerseys y'all burned stunted your mental ability to be cognitive.

chu tweak'n if lebron did not need a rampup from wade to win the nba title.
shyt he just needed to be bailed out by kyrie, just last year, too.


art barr

nikkaz forget,..i liked bron more than you, my nikka.
i can debunk any bron arguement cause i am real about the nikka,..he is no goat and neither was kobe.
as i was a bigger kobe fan than nikkaz, too. except i know the difference and saw the real, which was mj from start to finish, period.

i'm with you on everything you said about bron and wade. except for the part about dwade willing himself to that win vs dallas.

we all know what happened. dwade aka dwhistle got the most whistles you've ever seen a guard get in the history of the game. it was beyond ridiculous. I dont know which ref had money on the games. or if it was a call from up high that said make sure that loud mouth cuban doesnt win yet. or whatever it might have been. but that freethrow festival will never get the respect of a normal finals run. NEVER. I still remember T-mac talking about it. like "i dont know...that did look a little shaddy"

Interviewer: Were you rooting for them or Dallas?
TMac: Shaq is like a big brother of mine. I have known him
for awhile so I was pulling for him. But I wanted to keep
the ring in the West so i was pulling for Dallas.

Interviewer: Yeah but Dallas, how can you root for Dallas?

TMac: Well I wanted to root for Dallas because thats the
same team we took 7 games into the playoffs a couple of
years ago, so I wanted to root for them just so everyone
knows how good they are.

Interviewer: Was it a little ridiculous how Dwyane Wade
got all the calls?
TMac: Yeah, yeah it really was. I'll tell you man, it
seems if you were watching that game, seemed like it was
rigged. Seriously. I know the NBA.... (cut off by
interviewer)

Interviewer: You just got fined (sarcastically)
TMac: I dont care. So what? But yeah it seemed like it
was rigged. With all the calls he was getting. Jesus. Did
you hear me? We are talking about the NBA Finals, <b>I wish
I could say I was just kidding, and thats what it seemed
like.

Im serious alot of my friends watched the games, watched the
finals, and thats the way they say it to me. They are like,
from watching the game here, it seems like it is rigged. I
was like man, I dont know nothing about that.

 

[rapbeats]

Lebron is still a defensive playmaker...Kobe had been ass on defense since Shaq left and only played dedense when he had too.

Lebron anchored those Miami teams defensively.

nikkas actin like Kobe was Kawhi

kobe could turn into kawhi at will. he did it to many of great scorer. as tracy mcgrady who was cooking kobe and the lakers. then kobe shut that man down in the 2nd half. its one thing to keep a guy at bay from the tip off thats hard. but the hardest thing to do with a superstar scorer is to cool him down once he gets hot.shoot its hard to cool off a role player that gets it going too much. kobe did that to a many of scorer over the course of his career.

lebron played solid defense on people with serious holes in their games. like defending drose who couldnt really shoot and only wanted to drive. just backup give him space. and be there when he goes up. notice lebron couldnt guard steph. who doesnt really have flaws in his game other than not being super athletic. but he can shoot from anywhere. and thats harder to guard than a guy only trying to go to the rack on every play.

lebron switched on to some THin suspect PF's in an era where most pf's are not low post players and have no moves. would bron be able to slide over and guard the likes of shawn kemp in his prime in the post? HELLZ NO.

 

[rapbeats]

LeBron had more seasons in the DPoY conversation, could defend more positions, and make far more explosive defensive plays than Kobe ever could. How does LeBron not challenge himself defensively when he has been switched off to guards like MVP Rose and Tony Parker and locked them down, when just last year he was trusted to switch to DeRozan in 4Q's of the ECF, when LeBron effectively guarded PF's and some C's as a small ball PF in Miami, when his signature play requires him to run the length of the court and pin shots off the glass killing fast breaks.

the bolded just exposed you.

you only care about espn defensive plays.

lol at guarding deroz. the guy who can't shoot. read my post above. this is my point about the comp bron has to go against. it's nothing in comparison to what kobe had to deal with every night. bron aint slowing down Durant. not happening. why? because he can shoot. bron really isnt good at guarding superstars that can shoot well. he can guard guys that are athletic with a shaky jumpshot like himself.

 

[JYoung24]

False. Why is he better because he bites his jersey and gets in a pretty defensive stance and trash talks no nikka he is not watched both for years. Kobe was never a DPoY candidate. And he isn't "probably" a better off-ball defender he is without a doubt. He got All-Defense selections off namesake.

fukk dpoy canidate Duncan never been one either and he's been arguably the best defender this last decade. Kobe has been considered a lock down defender it's not even debatable there's has been other players in the league talking about his defense stop trying to re write history

 

[ISO]

fukk dpoy canidate Duncan never been one either and he's been arguably the best defender this last decade. Kobe has been considered a lock down defender it's not even debatable there's has been other players in the league talking about his defense stop trying to re write history

Actually, Duncan has been a DPoY candidate. He was one perenially for much of his career and was robbed a couple times.

Kobe at one point was a good defender but he was never a better defender than LeBron...
LeBron is flat out more versatile, athletically gifted, and with a high defensive I.Q. that gave him the ability to see things before they developed.

the bolded just exposed you.

you only care about espn defensive plays.

lol at guarding deroz. the guy who can't shoot. read my post above. this is my point about the comp bron has to go against. it's nothing in comparison to what kobe had to deal with every night. bron aint slowing down Durant. not happening. why? because he can shoot. bron really isnt good at guarding superstars that can shoot well. he can guard guys that are athletic with a shaky jumpshot like himself.

How did it expose me?

LeBron makes explosive, momentum changing, game altering defensive plays that Kobe has never been able to make. DeRozan is a great midrange shooter with a great triple threat game, handles, and a post game and before LeBron got on him he was cooking. The rest of your post is B.S., I can post numbers all day to counter but I don't got time for you dumb ass Kobe stans tonight.

 

[JYoung24]

What?

Kobe wasn't better than any of them nikkas...

He wasn't a better passer than Lebron...

He wasn't a better all around player than Wade or Lebron...

He wasn't dominant like Shaq...

He wasn't a better shooter/scorer than Dirk...

He didn't have the defensive impact of Duncan or Dwight...


So I don't know how anybody wanna say Kobe was the undisputed best player at any point and time. Only thing that nikka did was win a lot...and that nikka better win when he had fukking Shaq and Phil Jackson and then he had Phil Jackson and Pau..the motherfukker better win. And when he didn't have any of them..he took Ls.

Only thing Kobe did was take a lot of damn shots...and was slightly above average at making them shyts and he was a slightly above scorer....

Motherfukkers like KD, Dirk and Lebron kill Kobe when it comes to offensive efficiency.

Kobe's offensive game looked pretty as fukk but that shyt doesn't mean he was the best player.

He was a all around player at are you talking he wasn't just a scorer. And now all of sudden he's not better then wade smh. He was considered the best player by his peers all over the league stop hating

 

[AlainLocke]

fukk dpoy canidate Duncan never been one either and he's been arguably the best defender this last decade. Kobe has been considered a lock down defender it's not even debatable there's has been other players in the league talking about his defense stop trying to re write history

WTF are you talking about...

Tim Duncan in his defensive prime played with alongside KG, Alonzo Mourning, Ben Wallace, Ron Artest

And he won 2 MVPs...those two years he won MVP...he could've easily been the Defensive Player of the Year....

Tim Duncan is way better on defense than he was on offense.