NORE AIRS OUT HOT-97!

[Wacky D]

Don't you think West coast cats sought out Jay and Puff?

but how many of them wouldve fit? i wouldnt even want to be on bad boy or rocafella in their primes if i was from the west coast in those respective eras.

i cant think of one mid-90s west rapper that wouldve fit on bad boy at the time.
i cant think of one late '90s/early '00s rapper that wouldve fit on rocafella in those days.

maybe you know some underground/unsigned cats that wouldve fit since youre out there?

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Why not talk vice versa? Is it because you hold the East and West coasts to different standards?

Come on fam, what struggling nikka from NYC wouldn't sign to a hot record label from the West? I'm talking about nikkas in power in NYC like Jay and Puff never signing a west coast rapper and they've had labels for damn near 20 years now.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

but how many of them wouldve fit? i wouldnt even want to be on bad boy or rocafella in their primes if i was from the west coast in those respective eras.

i cant think of one mid-90s west rapper that wouldve fit on bad boy at the time.
i cant think of one late '90s/early '00s rapper that wouldve fit on rocafella in those days.

maybe you know some underground/unsigned cats that wouldve fit since youre out there?

As far as I'm concerned Souls of Mischief would've fit on both labels so would Rass Kass.

 

[Wacky D]

I could be wrong but, to me, it seemed like Power99 started playing Meek heavy when he put out In My Bag. If this was Atlanta instead of Philly, they'd been playing Meek plus all of those other underground cats like Kaboom, Quilly and NH. It was crazy to me...because up here we just play the same 40 hit songs over and over, when down there, they really be playing nobodies, giving them that spotlight. Then we want to get mad because they dominating the industry.

yup.

and get this, they wouldve re-released "in my bag", "rose red" and all that other stuff to the national public when meek got his deal, instead of those just being a bunch of local hits that most of his fans know nothing about. those songs wouldve been bigger hits than at least half of meek's MMG hits.

the south be having hits thats years old. i remember "still tippin" was big down south like a whole year before the video hit the video channels. hell, it mightve been 2 years.

 

[Malik]

yup.

and get this, they wouldve re-released "in my bag", "rose red" and all that other stuff to the national public when meek got his deal, instead of those just being a bunch of local hits that most of his fans know nothing about. those songs wouldve been bigger hits than at least half of meek's MMG hits.

the south be having hits thats years old. i remember "still tippin" was big down south like a whole year before the video hit the video channels. hell, it mightve been 2 years.

Yep. That's exactly what they would have did.



Damn....I just seen the boy Young Hot at 0:20 seconds. What happened to that guy?

 

[Wacky D]

As far as I'm concerned Souls of Mischief would've fit on both labels so would Rass Kass.

backpack & rippity-rap niccas on rocafella & bad boy? theres tons of east coast rappers like them that werent signed to those labels and theres a reason why.

I'm talking about NY labels not signing west coast rappers not vice versa. 50 was sleeping in his Grandma's basement when Dre and Jimmy cut that million dollar check. Only a fool would've turned it down.

there was a bidding war for 50 actually.

he was a gold mine and a good fit.

Come on fam, what struggling nikka from NYC wouldn't sign to a hot record label from the West? I'm talking about nikkas in power in NYC like Jay and Puff never signing a west coast rapper and they've had labels for damn near 20 years now.

sure if youre struggling, youre gonna want to sign anywhere, but signing out of your region to crews that dont understand you is almost always a bad move, unless youre a perfect fit.

Nore decided he was a Reggaeton artist, even announced it, and started to only do Reggaeton tracks after it had already 'blown up' The fact that it faded fast like some Latin Hyphy doesn't change the fact that he did exactly what HOT97 is doing by catering to the masses who want dance/party music.

i busted out laughing at that "latin hyphy" comment. thats pretty much what it was. they never really blew up. reggaeton blew up somewhat off of latino homers, thats about it.

nore always specialized in making hot party records tho.

Yep. That's exactly what they would have did.



Damn....I just seen the boy Young Hot at 0:20 seconds. What happened to that guy?

lol. young hot was prolly my favorite of that wave of philly rappers that came thru around then.

im not a meek fan, but i always wanted to run into him at an event or something. really at a random store or some chit so that i could get my point across and tell him to re-release those songs. i didnt even like most of those songs, but i just wanted to get that off my chest. same situation with alot of east coast dudes.

 

[Canada Goose]

I'm talking about NY labels not signing west coast rappers not vice versa. 50 was sleeping in his Grandma's basement when Dre and Jimmy cut that million dollar check. Only a fool would've turned it down.

50 lived in the Poconos in PA after he got shot...

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Come on fam, what struggling nikka from NYC wouldn't sign to a hot record label from the West? I'm talking about nikkas in power in NYC like Jay and Puff never signing a west coast rapper and they've had labels for damn near 20 years now.

Lets keep it 100 fam. Like I said I got love for the West. But they don't have the volume of artists at a level of quality or sales necessary to warrant big label deals. Over the last 20 years yall averaged a 2 hot artist per decade average. A whole fukking coast. Atlanta has more national stars than the whole West Coast. 1 fukking city. So Jay and Puff haven't signed any West Coast artists because theres nobody from the West to sign. Everyone who has come out worth the rest of the country hearing goes to Aftermath. You know, because Aftermath is a West Coast label. Just like Rocafella signed mostly East Coast nikkas, because its an East Coast label. So what point are you trying to make exactly? Everything you complain about the East doing is either not true, or nothing the West isn't doing too.

 

[Wacky D]

puff shouldve signed guerrilla black.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

Lets keep it 100 fam. Like I said I got love for the West. But they don't have the volume of artists at a level of quality or sales necessary to warrant big label deals. Over the last 20 years yall averaged a 2 hot artist per decade average. A whole fukking coast. Atlanta has more national stars than the whole West Coast. 1 fukking city. So Jay and Puff haven't signed any West Coast artists because theres nobody from the West to sign. Everyone who has come out worth the rest of the country hearing goes to Aftermath. You know, because Aftermath is a West Coast label. Just like Rocafella signed mostly East Coast nikkas, because its an East Coast label. So what point are you trying to make exactly? Everything you complain about the East doing is either not true, or nothing the West isn't doing too.

Cali was blackballed after they killed your king.

 

[director_of_bands]

the conglomerates like emmis broadcasting and radio1 control the playlists not hot 97 djs...almost every US city is basically listening to the same station so regional play barely exists for anybody now not just NY

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Cali was blackballed after they killed your king.

Then how did Dre catapult 50 and Em to the top?
How did Game blow?
How did Kendrick blow?

You can't be blackballed and have #1 singles and platinum albums.

And who blackballed them? The East Coast? The same coast that hasn't been able to create more than 1 new full on star in the last 10 years? What are you talking about?

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

THAT IS BECAUSE MAINO IS TRASH AND MAKES TRASH RECORDS

THE SOUTH IS WINNING BC THEY STAY INNOVATING AND BREAKING THAT TIRED ASS NEW YORK FORMULA

NORE GONNA START WARBLING IN AUTOTUNE AND RIDING YOUNG CHOP BEATS NEXT YEAR BUT BY THEN THAT shyt WILL BE PLAYED AND OLD RAPPERS WILL CONTINUE TO FEEL SOME TYPE OF WAY ABOUT THEIR OWN RESTRICTED ARTISTRY

no disrespect to the south but for a while they have innovated nothing... the south been doing the same shyt for years now...
95% mainstream rap has to be simple abc shyt now ignorance is the only thing radio cares about. there is good music but thats mainly why the south is winning...there is always a perfect stereotypical 1 hit wonder on deck from the south to fall in line..the powers that be have created a farm system at this point to keep it that way

 

[Wacky D]

no disrespect to the south but for a while they have innovated nothing... the south been doing the same shyt for years now...
95% mainstream rap has to be simple abc shyt now ignorance is the only thing radio cares about. there is good music but thats mainly why the south is winning...there is always a perfect stereotypical 1 hit wonder on deck from the south to fall in line..the powers that be have created a farm system at this point to keep it that way

best post in this thread.

i do think that atlanta is kind of like the only market thats allowed to do the chit that they do.

call it a conspiracy but thats how i always felt.

Cali was blackballed after they killed your king.

i think so too.

but honestly, california ran out of gas anyway after '96 anyway. and i say that as a guy who was rooting for the west coast during the civil war. when death row went down, and all their other '90s legends got old, there was nobody really there to keep it going. warren g's label got lost in an industry shuffle, dogg pound went solo. i think the luniz couldve did something as a duo if they made the right business and music moves, but yuk went solo.

and the west DEFINITELY lost their appeal after '96.

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

the conglomerates like emmis broadcasting and radio1 control the playlists not hot 97 djs...almost every US city is basically listening to the same station so regional play barely exists for anybody now not just NY

your talking to much sense...its amazing in 2014 people still live in a fantasy and dont understand how radio play works