Noreaga: Nas wasn't on CNN War Report cause he doesn't like Tragedy

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breh...you missing the point. putting Mega or Trag on QB compilation album is not a favor. thats like some mandatory shyt or your shyt just aint official. like we mentioned Cee Lo. cant do an ATL's greatest and have T.I., Outkast, Goodie, but leave Cee Lo out. that has nothing to do with a favor. that takes away from authenticity of your project.
It's some mandatory shyt?..to who?..son u sound like a fan and not a real person.. This nikka knew Mega his whole life...he don't look at the nikka like nikkas on the outside look at him...there's nikkas in the same damn group that break up and don't fukk wit eachother AT ALL regardless of the project.. The nikka is not OBLIGATED to put none of them nikkas on anything fam.. Him and Mega was dissin eachother at the time why would he automatically think to put him on the joint that's he's cosigning..he's putting out..to put bread in Mega's pocket.. While the nikka is running around throwing dirt on his name and dissing him and tryna take bread out of his?. Bottom line..Nas was generous and put the nikka on the shyt..ain't no other artist in QB gave nikkas looks like Nas has at his stature over the years and nikkas STILL try to shyt on him left n right..them nikkas is crabs and that's why half of em ain't successful now regardless of talent..they always beefin over some petty shyt..they jealous hearted.. They try to extort each other...and they're unappreciative..period..
 

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That's fair enough, regardless point remains Tragedy is a very dope MC. Can't believe people talking about him like he's any standard rapper lol.
Trag is nice as fukk..one of the illest MC's ever to not blow up..I just wish nikkas would mention him on his own merit instead of tryna drag Nas or any other artist down when they mention him...they do this shyt with every artist that's nice and isn't as popular as the next one..it's like nikkas think that makes the artist that didn't blow automatically better..
 

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It's some mandatory shyt?..to who?..son u sound like a fan and not a real person.. This nikka knew Mega his whole life...he don't look at the nikka like nikkas on the outside look at him...there's nikkas in the same damn group that break up and don't fukk wit eachother AT ALL regardless of the project.. The nikka is not OBLIGATED to put none of them nikkas on anything fam.. Him and Mega was dissin eachother at the time why would he automatically think to put him on the joint that's he's cosigning..he's putting out..to put bread in Mega's pocket.. While the nikka is running around throwing dirt on his name and dissing him and tryna take bread out of his?. Bottom line..Nas was generous and put the nikka on the shyt..ain't no other artist in QB gave nikkas looks like Nas has at his stature over the years and nikkas STILL try to shyt on him left n right..them nikkas is crabs and that's why half of em ain't successful now..they always beefin over some petty shyt..they jealous hearted.. They try to extort each other...and their unappreciative..period..

I didnt say he was obligated. I said nikkas wasnt gonna be on that shyt because they was rallyin for Mega beyond the beef shyt. do this for me fam. tell me....since he wasnt obligated...which I agree...and they were still beefin AFTER that...then how did Mega end up on the project? breh, when you talking history, shyt is beyond beef.
 

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I didnt say he was obligated. I said nikkas wasnt gonna be on that shyt because they was rallyin for Mega beyond the beef shyt. do this for me fam. tell me....since he wasnt obligated...which I agree...and they were still beefin AFTER that...then how did Mega end up on the project? breh, when you talking history, shyt is beyond beef.
Cause nikkas rallied for him to be on it..ur right about that..entirely..I thought that was bs as well cause nikkas tried to act like Nas was wrong for not wanting him on it.. Which I don't think he was..
 

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Trag is nice as fukk..one of the illest MC's ever to not blow up..I just wish nikkas would mention him on his own merit instead of tryna drag Nas or any other artist down when they mention him...they do this shyt with every artist that's nice and isn't as popular as the next one..it's like nikkas think that makes the artist that didn't blow automatically better..

you talkin about some random comments in here, some of which I did not agree with. I never tried to drag Nas down to boost up Trag, actually, I dont even compare the two outside of them being from the Bridge and Trag not getting proper credit for birthing a style and movement. Nas was more of a G Rap protege.

my sole point in this thread is to say that I believe it was more to it than the EMoneyBags verse why Nas wasnt feeling Trag at the time. I think it was as much of a business decision as it was personal if not more. whether Nas thought Trag was old school, wack, or whatever, he just didnt want to do songs with the nikka. thats all I am sayin. but nikkas act like Nas team dont make business decisions....hence the Mega argument. Nas career took a different path after Illmatic. when you are in the industry, a lot of times the business side outweighs anything on the personal side. Nas and Mega done performed on stage after all that beef.
 

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Cause nikkas rallied for him to be on it..ur right about that..entirely..I thought that was bs as well cause nikkas tried to act like Nas was wrong for not wanting him on it.. Which I don't think he was..

what they was sayin was, lay down your beef for a sec, this is about history. this aint about record sales even, its about history, and Mega was major part of QB history. at the same time, these nikkas had a lot of lil beefs about who was real and who was fake type shyt. their beef shouldve never even went on as long as it did. this wasnt no MC Eiht/DJ Quik or 50 vs Ja type beef.
 

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Nas always did what he was told. Why you think Mega got kicked out the Firm and replaced with Nature even tho Mega was Nas childhood friend? Because Mega refused to sign Steve Stout's contract who would be taking a large percentage of his earnings, while Nature already had a production deal with Trackmasters. Mega was the only one without a deal with Stout/Trackmasters so they told him to kick rocks and Nas was just like :yeshrug:
 
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Nas always did what he was told. Why you think Mega got kicked out the Firm and replaced with Nature even tho Mega was Nas childhood friend? Because Mega refused to sign Steve Stout's contract who would be taking a large percentage of his earnings, while Nature already had a publishing deal with Trackmasters. Mega was the only one without a deal with Stout/Trackmasters so they told him to kick rocks and Nas was just like :yeshrug:

and thats what I am saying, the industry divided them and made their beef more personal than what it was. if neither of them nikkas wouldve gotten large, they prob wouldnt have been beefin, at least not more than something temporary. even though Illmatic was a classic, it didnt make him the crossover star that people knew he could be. so the people around him charted him a different course. there is nothing wrong with that at all. what I am saying is....that course doesnt get charted without you having a list of who to associate with and who not.
 

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Trag is nice as fukk..one of the illest MC's ever to not blow up..I just wish nikkas would mention him on his own merit instead of tryna drag Nas or any other artist down when they mention him...they do this shyt with every artist that's nice and isn't as popular as the next one..it's like nikkas think that makes the artist that didn't blow automatically better..

Yeah, I can't speak for anyone else but not trying to bring anyone else down, particularly Nas who I rate even higher than Tragedy. The only comparison that looks a little crazy is Nore being better than Tragedy, I like Nore but Tragedy is a lot better. I actually probably like Capone better than Nore too. Yeah dragging people down is wack, comparing is fine but straight up dissing and disrespecting unless the artist is garbage is dumb.
 

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Damn near every rapper from the Bridge has beefed with each other at some point. It's not exclusive to Nas.
 

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you talkin about some random comments in here, some of which I did not agree with. I never tried to drag Nas down to boost up Trag, actually, I dont even compare the two outside of them being from the Bridge and Trag not getting proper credit for birthing a style and movement. Nas was more of a G Rap protege.

my sole point in this thread is to say that I believe it was more to it than the EMoneyBags verse why Nas wasnt feeling Trag at the time. I think it was as much of a business decision as it was personal if not more. whether Nas thought Trag was old school, wack, or whatever, he just didnt want to do songs with the nikka. thats all I am sayin. but nikkas act like Nas team dont make business decisions....hence the Mega argument. Nas career took a different path after Illmatic. when you are in the industry, a lot of times the business side outweighs anything on the personal side. Nas and Mega done performed on stage after all that beef.

He done songs with Lake, Nature, Blitz, why would it be buisiness, what did he have to gain business wise from working with those 3 who were relatively unknown? Its obviously something personal.
 

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He done songs with Lake, Nature, Blitz, why would it be buisiness, what did he have to gain business wise from working with those 3 who were relatively unknown? Its obviously something personal.

I am just saying what I think. Could be wrong. Lemme ask you this. Do you think if Trag was a bigger star at that time that Nas wouldve worked with him or been on the CNN project? It just seems to me that nikkas that prominent in the game and the culture from the same hood would not work together over a verse removal. It couldve been something more personal than we know and nikkas just aint spoke on it. Nore only tellin from what he knows.
 

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It's some mandatory shyt?..to who?..son u sound like a fan and not a real person.. This nikka knew Mega his whole life...he don't look at the nikka like nikkas on the outside look at him...there's nikkas in the same damn group that break up and don't fukk wit eachother AT ALL regardless of the project.. The nikka is not OBLIGATED to put none of them nikkas on anything fam.. Him and Mega was dissin eachother at the time why would he automatically think to put him on the joint that's he's cosigning..he's putting out..to put bread in Mega's pocket.. While the nikka is running around throwing dirt on his name and dissing him and tryna take bread out of his?. Bottom line..Nas was generous and put the nikka on the shyt..ain't no other artist in QB gave nikkas looks like Nas has at his stature over the years and nikkas STILL try to shyt on him left n right..them nikkas is crabs and that's why half of em ain't successful now regardless of talent..they always beefin over some petty shyt..they jealous hearted.. They try to extort each other...and they're unappreciative..period..


I'm not sure what exactly you're referencing here...but according to Mega in a past interview...he was never paid to the verse on the QB album, Mega claims he's still waiting for a check on that...he also claimed that he and a few other guys refused to be on the album if Trag wasn't on there. I personally believe that in trying to complete any type of compilation album Nas had no choice but to include certain people...I don't think Wiz, Jungle and Nashawn were enough to carry it.

All in all, the relationships in QB are borderline bipolar- schizo...I never understood how Mega and Nas had beef from 97-2002, yet Mega ended up on the QB compilation in 2000, or how Nature ended up on there when he and Nas had beef from 1999-2002...or How Mobb Deep ended up on Lake's album after getting jumped, and jacked in 1999 but ended up on his compilation album in 2001. All these guys supposedly had major issues with one another yet they kept showing p on one another's projects in the midst of the beef back then.
 

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No one outside of the East coast would rank Trag as an all-time great. I have more respect for Bay nikkas saying Mac Dre is a goat or Southern nikkas stanning 3k than I do this stupid narrative.

This just proves how much of a ny hater you are and a clown...don't think nikkas don't see right through you...it's ok to suck the dikk of a c level artist from your region (Mac dre) but when we big up a c level artist it's all " he wack blah blah" like our c level artist can't rap circles around your c level artist :comeon:...you have too much hate in your blood for ny and it's showing sit your non knowing ass down
 

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Nas always did what he was told. Why you think Mega got kicked out the Firm and replaced with Nature even tho Mega was Nas childhood friend? Because Mega refused to sign Steve Stout's contract who would be taking a large percentage of his earnings, while Nature already had a production deal with Trackmasters. Mega was the only one without a deal with Stout/Trackmasters so they told him to kick rocks and Nas was just like :yeshrug:


Plus if I'm not mistaken Mega signed that deal with Def Jam when nas was telling him to wait because he figured after the Firm popped of he would get better offers...
 
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