Official '24-25 NY Knicks Offseason Thread

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October 2025...KD will be 37 years old, KAT will turn 30 on November 15th

KD ain't offering much on defense + injury prone

A KD trade sounds like an early 2000's Knicks move that kept us in the dumpster smh
I felt the same but @ISO was right about his defense this season, it was really good. Age and injury wise it’s a gamble for sure. It’s an all in move for the 2026 playoffs. Put this years KD on this roster instead KAT and we’re comfortably in the finals.
 

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Knicks used a 8 man rotation and won 51 games

Would a 9 or 10 man rotation add to their win total

Would playing Dadiet extended minutes at back up SF have added to their win total

Would playing Hukporti extended minutes at back up PF have added to their win total
 

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I'm ready to have the tough conversation now. L

There were serious flaws.

I also acknowledge that this was year one of this team.

I really wanted to let last year's team run it back.

Would iI still do the Mikal trade? Yes.

Would I still have done the Towns trade? No.

Am I willing to run this team back and have faith that Leon Rose can acquire some solid glue guys and KAT buy in? Yes.


But... if Giannis is available, of course I'd entertain it.

That being said, I want to keep Thibs.

The untouchables for me: Brunson, McBride and Mitch.

Great season our Knicks gave us.
 

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Knicks used a 8 man rotation and won 51 games

Would a 9 or 10 man rotation add to their win total

Would playing Dadiet extended minutes at back up SF have added to their win total

Would playing Hukporti extended minutes at back up PF have added to their win total

Would having lineup shuffling for reps/flexibility have helped the Knicks against the Pacers?
 

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They were getting targeted all game, every game, and the defense was never great either in the season or the playoffs. With that said KAT is extremely talented offensively and seems like a good person. It’s just defensively if you can be targeted in the playoffs everybody is going to do it.
 
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I'm ready to have the tough conversation now. L

There were serious flaws.

I also acknowledge that this was year one of this team.

I really wanted to let last year's team run it back.

Would iI still do the Mikal trade? Yes.

Would I still have done the Towns trade? No.

Am I willing to run this team back and have faith that Leon Rose can acquire some solid glue guys and KAT buy in? Yes.


But... if Giannis is available, of course I'd entertain it.

That being said, I want to keep Thibs.

The untouchables for me: Brunson, McBride and Mitch.

Great season our Knicks gave us.
Pretty much where I’m at.
 

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Would having lineup shuffling for reps/flexibility have helped the Knicks against the Pacers?

How are you gonna ask me the same question I just asked you. Lol

Dadiet/Huk/Precious are the guys who didn't play this series

If you truly feel they would have added to the process. You have to say it with your chest.

The Knicks have 4 back up guards under 6'5. And they start a utility player who is about 6'5. The internet seems obsessed with Thibs playing every guard he has 20 minutes a night
 

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Occam's Razor...simplest solution->
Culture reset begins in October. In order to nail down the details and hold players accountable, extend the rotation...Trust your bench in the regular season. Embrace a defense-first identity.



this cac is right Thibs or Kat got to go. :camby:

its going to be harder to move Kat's salary specially since ya'll know the hit pieces are already coming out. :unimpressed:

however what is leaning my vote into moving Thibs <fire him or move him to the front office> is his unwillingness to change lineups he is stuck in the early 2000's, only changes lineups when forced to do it via an injury or being down, for example I understand bringing in Mitch along slowly due to injury however stevie wonder could see that Hart needed to go back to the bench and that kat needed a defensive 5 behind him, specially seeing how well Bridges was playing when being trusted with more ball handling even in the regular season Bridges played better when given the ball which only happened when hart was in foul trouble or Bruson was hurt. that is bad head coaching putting the blinders on for your guy and more of an assistant coach trait that Thibs hasn't been able to shed into his long career as a head coach
also having deuce, shamet and Wright in the gulag. when in the last 4-5 seasons the teams that made deep runs had a deeper rotation of 8-10 guys. or main rotattion was 8 guys but the bench guys was playing very few minutes our starters played the most minutes all season in the whole league and it showed with Kat having no lift late into the season he never been a high leaper but he had more umph at the beginning of the season, he came back from one of his injuries limping since the late regular season and stayed limping and Thibs was still was playing him heavy minutes and Mitch low minutes when we where locked in to the 3 seed.

Thibs is a Glorified Assistant coach that fixates on a couple of players and can't see the forest for the trees. assistant coaches are great at developing a few guys on the bench or a young promising starter but head coaches have to be able to see the coming match ups , to play chess and not checkers put all the players in a position that they can flourish. Thibs Bye let him fall upwards go sit with H20 and carry Dolan's Guitar cases :unimpressed:
 
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How are you gonna ask me the same question I just asked you. Lol

Dadiet/Huk/Precious are the guys who didn't play this series

If you truly feel they would have added to the process. You have to say it with your chest.

The Knicks have 4 back up guards under 6'5. And they start a utility player who is about 6'5. The internet seems obsessed with Thibs playing every guard he has 20 minutes a night
Not what you asked me. Would playing Wright, Shamet, Precious, Mitch and Deuce in more variety of lineups for more minutes have helped us this series? We literally were throwing shyt at the wall because a terrible 5 man unit that lead the league in minutes was on the verge of getting swept in the ECF.
 

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this cac is right Thibs or Kat got to go. :camby:

its going to be harder to move Kat's salary specially since ya'll know the hit pieces are already coming out. :unimpressed:

however what is leaning my vote into moving Thibs <fire him or move him to the front office> is his unwillingness to change lineups he is stuck in the early 2000's, only changes lineups when forced to do it via an injury or being down, for example I understand bringing in Mitch along slowly due to injury however stevie wonder could see that Hart needed to go back to the bench and that kat needed a defensive 5 behind him, specially seeing how well Bridges was playing when being trusted with more ball handling even in the regular season Bridges played better when given the ball which only happened when hart was in foul trouble or Bruson was hurt. that is bad head coaching putting the blinders on for your guy and more of an assistant coach trait that Thibs hasn't been able to shed into his long career as a head coach
also having deuce, shamet and Wright in the gulag. when in the last 4-5 seasons the teams that made deep runs had a deeper rotation of 8-10 guys. or main rotattion was 8 guys but the bench guys was playing very few minutes our starters played the most minutes all season and it showed with Kat \having no lift late into the season he never been a high leaper but he had more umph at the beginning of the season, he came back from one of his injuries limping since the late regular season and stayed limping and Thibs was still was playing him heavy minutes and Mitch low minutes when we where locked in to the 3 seed.

Thibs is a Glorified Assistant coach that fixates on a couple of players and can't see the forest for the trees. assistant coaches are great at developing a few guys on the bench or a young promising starter but head coaches have to be able to see the coming match ups , to play chess and not checkers put all the players in a position that they can flourish. Thibs Bye let him fall upwards go sit with H20 and carry Dolan's Guitar cases :unimpressed:

nikkas watched those bench guys get good minutes in the highest of pressure situations in the conference finals, win us games, but I’m supposed to believe they wouldn’t have made a difference during the regular season cause we trogged our way to 51 wins.
 
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