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Okay well let those 1-5 kids get drafted and get paid ASAP because they deserve it :what:

And if the other kids still have to go to college then so be it, but let's not put limitations on them for no reason and force them to do a year :scust:
like i said, glad they're making some of you happy with this charade...NCAA still winning, players still losing :yawn:
 

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I was saying like 5 years back they really need to make the G-League a true minor league. I loved Mark Cuban's idea of drafting players into the G-League and require they play one or two years down there. During the 1 or 2 years force the players to take classes applicable to being a professional athlete. Classes relating to managing money and I forgot what other ones he mentioned. Also will get them accustomed to the NBA lifestyle before they get the really big money. Also gives teams a chance to coach players up and integrate them into the system before hitting the pro team.

The NBA already has classes, courses and offer internships, so I'm sure they're also available to the D-League.

I have no problem with them drafting players for the G-League, because they do it with overseas players all of the time. I do think the G-League needs to be reduced with the number of teams/available spots AND have a cap on how many years you can play in it, if it will ever become a true developmental league. The tyruth is that most of those HS drafted will find themselves in the G-League, lottery pick or not.
 

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Exactly can easily make the g league like the junior hockey leagues in canada or ahl


NBA just needs to invest in the G League. They have everything they need right there

If they actually made it so you can enter the NBA at 19 years old, kids coming out of HS can do 1 year in the G League or go to college if they want

But if the NBA gave incentives for top prospects to go to the G League (i.e., higher salaries+ endorsements) they can really build a farm league.

G League games can even become more profitable if the NBA marketed it and had young stars in the league developing. It might take 5-7 years to do all this but it needs to be set in motion because a farm league to develop young players is what is missing in the NBA and could benefit the league tremendously like it does for the NHL, MLB, Soccer.
 

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The NBA already has classes, courses and offer internships, so I'm sure they're also available to the D-League.

I have no problem with them drafting players for the G-League, because they do it with overseas players all of the time. I do think the G-League needs to be reduced with the number of teams/available spots AND have a cap on how many years you can play in it, if it will ever become a true developmental league. The tyruth is that most of those HS drafted will find themselves in the G-League, lottery pick or not.

Also undrafted players might have the option to go to college or college players could return:

 

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the ONLY reason for the 1 and done was NBA teams wanted more time to scout players against higher level competition. they can now hold NBA camps, use the G league, etc to evaluate talent
 

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like i said, there are a handful of people who go straight from HS to the pros, one and done isn't the issue. most kids still need some league/play between HS and the NBA, and that's still mostly done thru college. they need a viable paid league between the two, removing one and done is some faux bone to throw complainers without actually doing anything to truly remove the free labor system of the NCAA

NBA player development is different than it was back then.

I think we will see more high school kids drafted.
 

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Exactly can easily make the g league like the junior hockey leagues in canada or ahl

Right and I know you watch hockey so you know how integral the OHL and AHL is for guys in the league. Look at how it worked out for Kadri. We sent him back to the OHL for a year, he didn't make the team out of training camp, sent him back to AHL for a year where he tore it up and he's been a full time NHLer ever since and one our best players. Subban tore it up in the AHL for Montreal too. Countless other prospects. Not everyone is ready for the league at 18 or 19 but not everyone needs to be in college wasting time and loading the pockets of greedy corrupt school executives. Imagine how lit it would be going to G League games with young nikkas tearing it up and tickets for the games were 20-30 bucks like AHL/OHL (depending on the market). NBA needs this badly.
 

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breh, we're talking 1-5 kids....who are "forced" to college for a year. for the umpteenth time, this fixes nothing in the grand scheme of NCAA being a free farm system/kids basically being forced to go thru the NCAA
The NBA doesn’t dictate whether or not the NCAA exist .... this is a good ruling for those who were being blocked out of an opportunity and money ... there are only 30 slots in the first round if 5 of those guys are HS kids you’re talking about nearly 20% of draftees ..I wouldn’t call that an inconsequential amount .... the NCAA and its problems as an institution don’t have to be in conjunction to this change in philosophy :yeshrug:
 

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The NBA doesn’t dictate whether or not the NCAA exist .... this is a good ruling for those who were being blocked out of an opportunity and money ... there are only 30 slots in the first round if 5 of those guys are HS kids you’re talking about nearly 20% of draftees ..I wouldn’t call that an inconsequential amount .... the NCAA and its problems as an institution don’t have to be in conjunction to this change in philosophy :yeshrug:
five of them aren't first rounders, we're talking 2-5 across the whole draft, and it is inconsequential to the entire pool of students/players who are potential draft prospects. and yes, the NCAA is inherently tied to this, people are clamoring for kids to go straight to the NBA when there are 0-5 per year who would be able to do so, while there are at least a hundred who'd be better served if the people used that same energy to push for the g-league or some other paid league to be the bridge to NBA...kids would be paid, develop better in the face of playing stiffer competition, etc.

"one and done" is easily the tip of what's wrong with the system, i don't see it as a victory, it's a bullshyt consolation prize that pretty much protects the status quo
 

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Right and I know you watch hockey so you know how integral the OHL and AHL is for guys in the league. Look at how it worked out for Kadri. We sent him back to the OHL for a year, he didn't make the team out of training camp, sent him back to AHL for a year where he tore it up and he's been a full time NHLer ever since and one our best players. Subban tore it up in the AHL for Montreal too. Countless other prospects. Not everyone is ready for the league at 18 or 19 but not everyone needs to be in college wasting time and loading the pockets of greedy corrupt school executives. Imagine how lit it would be going to G League games with young nikkas tearing it up and tickets for the games were 20-30 bucks like AHL/OHL (depending on the market). NBA needs this badly.


The NHL also has it the best you can get drafted and still go to college and the team still holds your rights
 

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lol @ people acting like this is a big win. before it was put in place you had maybe 2-5 kids per draft go straight from HS to the pros, and one every 2-3 years that actually became a star (kobe, kG, dwight, bron, etc.), the population of kids this actually affects is so low, didn't matter either way whether they kept it or not.

Edit: here's the list...again, stop acting like one and done is the issue. the issue is no viable paid "development/junior" league

NBA high school draftees - Wikipedia


The culture has changed A LOT since those days. In 2003 when LeBron went, the only other player in the top 20 who went HS to NBA, or one-and-done, was Carmelo. Everyone else was either from Europe or played at least 2 years in college.

Compare that to last year when 15 of the top 20 picks were one and done.

Whether its right or wrong you will see a shyt load of players skipping college if this happens, way more than ever before.
 
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