One and Done is about to be overturned pre Woj

[Street Knowledge]

The age limit and the entire concept of the pro sports draft need to be abolished

 

[Flight]

Besides Kyree Walker, who else in that 2020 class worth tanking for?

Jalen Green, RJ hampton..

 

[Bilz]

we gonna pretend like Lavar isnt the reason for th changes in the NCAA system

 

[SchoolboyC]

five of them aren't first rounders, we're talking 2-5 across the whole draft, and it is inconsequential to the entire pool of students/players who are potential draft prospects. and yes, the NCAA is inherently tied to this, people are clamoring for kids to go straight to the NBA when there are 0-5 per year who would be able to do so, while there are at least a hundred who'd be better served if the people used that same energy to push for the g-league or some other paid league to be the bridge to NBA...kids would be paid, develop better in the face of playing stiffer competition, etc.

"one and done" is easily the tip of what's wrong with the system, i don't see it as a victory, it's a bullshyt consolation prize that pretty much protects the status quo

There's a little under 40 players who have declared for the draft after being one year removed from high school. This isn't 2002. I'm not sure what makes you think only a handful of players will declare directly out of HS.

 

[Left.A1]

five of them aren't first rounders, we're talking 2-5 across the whole draft, and it is inconsequential to the entire pool of students/players who are potential draft prospects. and yes, the NCAA is inherently tied to this, people are clamoring for kids to go straight to the NBA when there are 0-5 per year who would be able to do so, while there are at least a hundred who'd be better served if the people used that same energy to push for the g-league or some other paid league to be the bridge to NBA...kids would be paid, develop better in the face of playing stiffer competition, etc.

"one and done" is easily the tip of what's wrong with the system, i don't see it as a victory, it's a bullshyt consolation prize that pretty much protects the status quo

2004 there were 8 first round high school picks



I don’t really get what you’re railing against here tho tbh ... there already IS a G leauge and if they get rid of one year removed from highschool/19 and older to enter the NBA draft provision that means you will NOW have the choice to skip college and go straight to the Gleauge ...

I guess your upset that the NBA doesn’t get rid of the NCAAs collegiate sports system do I have that correct? If so I don’t really understand that stance as even in baseball where there is a fully integrated minor league most of the players still decide to go to college ...the NBA can’t wave there hand and remove college sports

 

[Big Boss]

 

[The Fire]

Lavar ball got the ball rolling for this whole situation. give credit where credit is due #BBB #nevaloss

 

[young yeesh]

if this came after that wack ass natty last year (the one this year wasnt much better seeing Nova slap Michigan's cheeks), it would've been a terrible look.

u ain’t had to phrase it like that :damecoffee:

 

[010101]

The age limit and the entire concept of the pro sports draft need to be abolished

exploitation is the american way

it's better around the world where franchises compete to bring the best offers to the top talent

kill the draft

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[Street Knowledge]

exploitation is the american way

it's better around the world where franchises compete to bring the best offers to the top talent

kill the draft

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The entire reason the draft exists(and this is the case for all sports) is because the owners don’t want the top young amateur talent competing in a true free market having them bid against each other for their services. The draft is a way of limiting bargaining and negotiating power.

The whole “Well you know this is about parity and fairness” is revionist history that they added on decades later

 

[threattonature]

five of them aren't first rounders, we're talking 2-5 across the whole draft, and it is inconsequential to the entire pool of students/players who are potential draft prospects. and yes, the NCAA is inherently tied to this, people are clamoring for kids to go straight to the NBA when there are 0-5 per year who would be able to do so, while there are at least a hundred who'd be better served if the people used that same energy to push for the g-league or some other paid league to be the bridge to NBA...kids would be paid, develop better in the face of playing stiffer competition, etc.

"one and done" is easily the tip of what's wrong with the system, i don't see it as a victory, it's a bullshyt consolation prize that pretty much protects the status quo

As time went on teams got more and more comfortable with drafting high school players and by this point I think the stigma is completely gone. I wouldn't be surprised to see half the first round being high schoolers if they remove the one and done. Especially after they changed the collective bargaining so that you get basically 8 years for cheap for drafted players. But like you said there'd still be plenty of players that would still be going through the NCAA and feeding the system so it wouldn't solve everything.

 

[dora_da_destroyer]

There's a little under 40 players who have declared for the draft after being one year removed from high school. This isn't 2002. I'm not sure what makes you think only a handful of players will declare directly out of HS.

it's not declaring, it's getting drafted....i'm sure more HS players declared than were drafted back in the day as well. again, this addresses a very select few, those vs. a larger population that would thrive in a semi pro/jr league who are left to slave away for the NCAA. yall are missing the point, i have no issue with this rule being removed, but it's not the bigger issue. people are happy with the scraps, that's cool. i still see the bigger problem and feel it should be addressed.

As time went on teams got more and more comfortable with drafting high school players and by this point I think the stigma is completely gone. I wouldn't be surprised to see half the first round being high schoolers if they remove the one and done. Especially after they changed the collective bargaining so that you get basically 8 years for cheap for drafted players. But like you said there'd still be plenty of players that would still be going through the NCAA and feeding the system so it wouldn't solve everything.

i could see more HS players being drafted currently due to the focus on guard play, but will they be able to hit the 3's people are counting on from guard play? what happens if/when the league shifts back to the front court?

but yea, either way, NCAA is still the free farm system, and people aren't doing enough to change that. that's my issue.

 

[010101]

The entire reason the draft exists(and this is the case for all sports) is because the owners don’t want the top young amateur talent competing in a true free market having them bid against each other for their services. The draft is a way of limiting bargaining and negotiating power.

The whole “Well you know this is about parity and fairness” is revionist history that they added on decades later

100% like i said murican exploitation*

 

[tremonthustler1]

G League games can even become more profitable if the NBA marketed it and had young stars in the league developing. It might take 5-7 years to do all this but it needs to be set in motion because a farm league to develop young players is what is missing in the NBA and could benefit the league tremendously like it does for the NHL, MLB, Soccer.

Marketing minor league hoops is fruitless

 

[CouldBeWorse]

Wrong thread