Oscar Roberson buried current NBA basketball

[Savior]

This Warrior team is getting a ridiculous amount of hate from old timers . But theres no question the game has changed. In football its even worse. Thats why you cant really compare a lot of records from past eras just gotta appreciate the moment as it is. Id be curious to see how Curry would handle something like the Jordan rules...I dont think he could take it...but the game's changed

 

[010101]

things change

in the past it was 5 players who were basically islands you move the pill from island to island and counted on your star to destroy whoever they put on him

the previous era it was more star vs.star emphasis on individual talent carrying the load

gsw moves like one entity
its now about finding and exploiting weaknesses

ogs were used to that head to head conflict they want that blood and guts confrontation your best matched against mine type shyt

but that shyt isn't pretty and doesn't sell as well
its mind surpassing muscle

chef is the current peak of the new and next wave i accept that and enjoy it as a young g

but i understand the perspective of the oldheads too
its like watching new technology emerge to make what you used to have to do manually automatic

old heads crying that the game is easier and these new nikkas is soft ain't exactly wrong

shyt nikkas played ball in fukking chucks and skippies
they was thuggin it weaux

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[Miggs]

Well there's your problem right there - highlights aren't going to show you all times where teams do make good decisions, rotations or switches on defense.

You can do that for every single team in the league. Highlight plays are generally made to highlight what the offense did well, usually at the expense at what the defense didn't do well. Curry is the most closely guarded perimeter player in the game, a few instances where you see a player failing to go over the top of a screen or not close out properly doesn't take away from all the times where he's got 2-3 players either focused on, running to him, trapping him or draped all over him behind the 3-pt line or anywhere in the halfcourt.

Teams aren't going to guard him perfectly or even good all throughout the game - not only are they human and will make mistakes but Curry's off ball ability and lighting quick release makes it impossible for them to stay on him the entire game. What do you want teams to implement a defensive strategy similar to what Loyola did against him when he was at Davidson? Where they double-teamed Curry on every possession for the entire game - holding him to 0 points - but sacrificing any chance at winning in the process as they ended up losing by 30?

Stop watching highlights and start watching games. Teams make dumb mistakes on D every day, B.

Breaux stop it...I said yo could watch highlights that alone would indicate what i mean,i do watch games i have league pass....I have seen alot of Warrior games this season and they are good but they benefit from alot of bad teams in the league this year...its a down year for the league and you can see it on most nights....They play most nights against some really bad defensive teams who are coached by idiots...

 

[Gravity]

If anybody says that there's hardly any "misdirection plays, double screen plays, weakside ball action" or any other wrinkles and folds today, than yes they are misinformed. I don't know about what sets/schemes all the teams run down to each specific detail, but what I do know is how complex and advanced they are to previous eras - simply by just watching them play. And I especially wouldn't make a general sweeping generalization that teams don't run sets, understand defense or have any variance in their offenses like Oscar said. He's completely off-key on that.

Is the pick n roll the foundation/staple of every team's offense in the NBA, yes or no?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

IM not wrong Breh i seen enough Warrior games this year to know what im talking about....ALOT of bad defenses and coaches with just flat out wrong game plans...But like i been saying most teams in the league are playing for themselves and there playoff position,they dont reallly care about game planning properly for the Dubs,they just assume they'll lose and hope to be competitive for 3 quarters...

Ive seen Curry and Klay take way too many open shots and its not cuz guys are confused,its cuz guys get lazy and dont want to run and dont want to make the effort on the defnesive end in a regular season game...I made this post back in december,theyve had alot of easy nights against some truly horrible coaching...

Warriors are playing for the record,all the other teams dont really care about it...

I can't believe that I've been falling for your A-1 trolling

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Is the pick n roll the foundation/staple of every team's offense in the NBA, yes or no?

For most teams - yes. What does the foundation/staple [PnR] of offenses have to do with Oscar saying there's hardly any 'misdirection plays, double screen plays, weakside action' or any other wrinkle/fold in offenses in today's league? What does it have to do with him saying teams/coaches don't understand defense?

Offensive systems are more complex and advanced than they have EVER been. Same goes for defenses. When someone says there's hardly any misdirection plays or double screens today - clearly they don't know what they're talking about.

 

[Gravity]

For most teams - yes.

So who are the teams that don't base their offense off of the pick n roll set? You talk about how complex offenses are when they're all based on one of the oldest plays in th history of the game. What's so complex about how GS plays offense or defense? Nothing is complex about it.

 

[NSSVO]

Hey, remember back in the days ?
Man them days is over

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

nikkas be traveling every play, can't play D, nikkas have no midrange game. Games fixed left and right shyts ass

You're aware by pretty much every metric, defenses are better now than they were 20 years ago right? Plenty of players have a mid range game, but it's as useful as having a vcr or a tape deck in your car. Dead technology. Nostalgia is dumb. 3's are better shots to take and so are shots in the paint. Plain and simple.

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Yeah because you saw his whole career from an adult perspective and able to put it in proper context

This post feels like you are trolling me

ole bod costas talking about the 1923 Giants assssssssssssssssssssss

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So who are the teams that don't base their offense off of the pick n roll set? You talk about how complex offenses are when they're all based on one of the oldest plays in th history of the game. What's so complex about how GS plays offense or defense? Nothing is complex about it.

How stupid are you for thinking that the basis of an offense means there isn't any wrinkles/folds or set plays based off namesake offensive systems or variations of them? Do you seriously believe teams are constantly just running a standard PnR over and over, without any other ball/player movement to score? You've already proven in the past you have absolutely no idea of what you're talking about - it comes as no surprise that you think the Warriors offense is basic.

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

Oscar seems like that old dude that don't like light skin black folk..Especially ones who grew up wealthy...

 

[The War Report]

Not all the old heads are bitter like Oscar.

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

Jim Brown is old and a hater

@KBadd.....

 

[Jerz-2]

The current NBA does suck. He cant be the one to say it though....

Yep.

It falls on deaf ears coming from him, though, because he's been coming off as bitter for many years.