Pistons close to deal w/ Stan Van Gundy taking full control

[I.V.]

"You hired Stan Van Gundy"

"But he hired Otis Smith"

 

[manyfaces]

I was under the impression he wore out his welcome in Miami . Seems like Riles would have done the same with Spo if he was just looking to hijack (didn't Miami get their act together because they didnt want to go through those Riley practices again), had to have been more to it. I remember mad cats on sohh saying Stan was good enough to build a club with but not that guy to win a ship. Stan used to get shade all of the time from what i remember. Those Orlando squads were built to win they just couldn't make wide open shots against the Lakers after being consistent all playoffs . They had a better team than the Cavs too.


I don't have anything against Stan though and think its a good hire from a coaching standpoint, just seems like he's been overrated a tad bit lately. I'll give him his elite props if he can turn the coal we have here into a diamond .

He didn't have Scott Brooks type talent that he mismanaged imo. He just didn't have the horses to get over the hump. And in regards to Miami I do believe that was his 1st pro coaching gig, so it may have even have been how you said it was and he learned from it. My thing with the not good enough to get you over the hump comment is that its what folks say that about any coach that hasn't won a championship yet. That was Rick Carlisle's, and ironically Larry Brown's label too. You give a coach enough time and a good enough team/player and they can get you there. And let's be honest, as Pistons fans these days we'd be happy to get anywhere near the damn hump anyway.

I'm not questioning SVG's coaching ability at all. My concern is if he has the ability to assemble a contending team. I think this is a good opportunity for him since he has a young big ala Howard to build around defensively and mold.

 

[Optimus Prime]

good for Stan, 35 million guaranteed with no pressure. Maybe Lebatard can get ESPN to pay Bomani to be on the radio show for 2 days a week...

 

[duckbutta]

As if Stancolm X is doing anything other than looking out for Otis Smith because Otis didn't just outright fire him because Blight Loward wanted him to...

Stancolm X will be the president of basketball operations...

Meaning that Coach Stancolm X will tell Otis Smith what player to get...and then President Stancolm X will approve the trade...

 

[NormanConnors]

He didn't have Scott Brooks type talent that he mismanaged imo. He just didn't have the horses to get over the hump. And in regards to Miami I do believe that was his 1st pro coaching gig, so it may have even have been how you said it was and he learned from it. My thing with the not good enough to get you over the hump comment is that is that folks say that about any coach that hasn't won a championship yet. That was Rick Carlisle's, and ironically Larry Brown's label too. You give a coach enough time and a good enough team/player and they can get you there.

I'm not questioning SVG's coaching ability at all. My concern is if he has the ability to assemble a contending team. I think this is a good opportunity for him since he has a young big ala Howard to build around defensively and mold.

Good points indeed. I'd like to see what he can do here with Drummond as the forefront also. i def agree on Scott Brooks as well. I see the similarities with Carlisle

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

That Warriors job is a no win situation. You're following a coach that had 2 great season and the players loved him.

Its also in the Western Conference.

I agree.

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

I'm happy for SVG, the Bay is in the building. Good to see a fellow Bay nikka eating. He'll get the Pistons outta the gutter.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I'm happy for SVG, the Bay is in the building. Good to see a fellow Bay nikka eating. He'll get the Pistons outta the gutter.

GSW have to get a proven coach.

 

[Born2BKing]

So who was responsible for putting together and maintaining those winning teams in Orlando if not Smith?

*awaits a cac to be given all the credit and called the gawd"

 

[Higher Tech]

This is a great move for Stan, much better than going to Golden State

 

[Higher Tech]

So who was responsible for putting together and maintaining those winning teams in Orlando if not Smith?

*awaits a cac to be given all the credit and called the gawd"

They didn't start saying Smith's name until the ship started sinking. When everything was good, the man got no credit.

 

[Brix]

to SVD for being a loyal dude. If I was on the firing squad and someone stood up for me even though he knows he's going to get shyt on for having my back, that's something I would never forget

 

[Born2BKing]

They didn't start saying Smith's name until the ship started sinking. When everything was good, the man got no credit.

Thats how it works. You notice how this thread is all about riding SVG dikk and calling him a gawd, while shytting on Otis Smith and Joe Dumars. Nevermind Otis had success in Orlando, that shyt don't matter. Nevermind the W's and L's, he should be known for all the mistakes he made. The bottom line doesn't matter on here when it comes to brothers. It is what it is though.

 

[winb83]

He can't be any worse than desperate mode Joe Dumars was. It was all downhill after that season he passed on Melo for Darko. Dumars stayed making offbeat and desperate moves after he got Sheed in that season.

 

[42 Monks]

So who was responsible for putting together and maintaining those winning teams in Orlando if not Smith?

*awaits a cac to be given all the credit and called the gawd"

please look at Otis Smith's fukkery from 2006 onward before you start saying he was some kind of wizard

SVG won in spite of this dude.