Popular CAC youtuber claims that they created blues, jazz and RnB

[King Jove]

Ahh Destiny, the racist "liberal" who hates "the left", and is friendly with literal nazis

nerdy cac who says the n word and lets other men fukk his wife





fukk him

 

[Cuban Pete]

It also implies that Europe was the only place on earth with music.

I was taking a music theory class once and the professor (elite cacozoid) basically said something to the gist of drums and bass being considered "rhythms" and not actual music? That "real" music had to have harmonious melody and any sounds with drums in it was just that, sounds or "noise"

Dropped out the next day, keep your music then cac

 

[ThaBronxBully]

Bet. My bad g I thought you were one of these WS on here.

On The Other Hand I DO Understand Black Americans Feeling The Need To Put A Foot Down Cause The Amount Of Things That Have Been Have Literally Been Stolen And Reclaimed From Them Throughout History, So I Don’t Mean To Tell Someone Not To Defend Their Culture

My Main Point Was Dont Get Into It With Idiots Cause Theyre Never Gonna Fold

 

[IllmaticDelta]

With a name like ‘OmniLiberal’, why’s anyone surprised?

That’s the purpose of intersectionality with white liberals & they’re just testing people’s temperature before they appropriate everything & rewrite history.

However, can you blame them? A lot of AAs are to blame for trying to act like Jazz/blues started in a vacuum on American soil, when it’s actually Malian/Mande music taken to US by black slaves.

This is basically what happens when you try too hard to dissociate something from its roots. You always end up creating an orphan everyone would feel entitled to lay claims to.

Blues and Jazz aren't simply what you just said Blues and Jazz are musics that were born of the creolization process that ADOS faced while taking their African heritage and clashing it against Euro-American culture. What ended up happening is that there were singular influences that could be traced back to old world Africa or old world Europe but also things that were completley made up by said ADOS population that had no clear antecedents. A pretty straight foward example is the drumkit/trapset




Africa had



Europe had






But it was ADOS and only ADOS who did

Spoiler

The reason why the Afram drumming style was so revolutionary was because while the rest of the world was using a a collection of drummers to do single parts all by hand (playing with hands or sticks),

Aframs came up with the idea to put disparate "Contraptions" together as a single unit along with pioneering the kick-drum, where all 4 limbs could be percussive, just like their pattin juba and tap dance culture. This instrument is what we now know as a "Trap Set" or "Drum Kit".

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

On The Other Hand I DO Understand Black Americans Feeling The Need To Put A Foot Down Cause The Amount Of Things That Have Been Have Literally Been Stolen And Reclaimed From Them Throughout History, So I Don’t Mean To Tell Someone Not To Defend Their Culture

My Main Point Was Dont Get Into It With Idiots Cause Theyre Never Gonna Fold

Yeah. A lot of the revisionism is accelerating as the baby boomers are dying out. Black millenials and gen Z are terrible when it comes to passing down black history since a lot in our generation are like Candace owens.

 

[Mʀ2ᴋDᴇᴇᴢ]

Who is this clown and why is the BS he’s spewing even worth our time & effort

 

[yung Herbie Hancock]

Ahh Destiny, the racist "liberal" who hates "the left", and is friendly with literal nazis

nerdy cac who says the n word and lets other men fukk his wife





fukk him

He's jut a nazi who doesn't like the mainstream backlash that comes with it, so he pretends to be a leftist.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

I don’t normally do this but

Who?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

He's full of shyt. Blues was copied from classical music

Dude is an idiot.....Blues is the antitheses of Classical music to the point that it broke all the rules of Western Harmony




read:

The blues is a foundational element of America’s vernacular and art music. It is commonly described as a combination of African rhythms and European harmonies. This description is inaccurate. Blues follows harmonic conventions that are quite different from those of Western European common practice. Blues harmony does not fit into major or minor tonality, and it frequently violates the “rules” of voice leading and chord function. But blues listeners do not experience the music as strange or dissonant. Instead, they hear an alternative form of consonance. In order to make sense of this fact, we need to understand blues as belonging to its own system of tonality, distinct from major, minor and modal scales. Because blues tonality is so widespread and important in Western music, I argue that we should teach it as part of the basic music theory curriculum

Blues tonality

See a more beginner-friendly blues primer here. Read this treatise in Spanish, translated by Jesús Fernández. Abstract The blues is a foundational element of America’s vernacular and art music. It …

www.ethanhein.com

 

[ChatGPT-5]

That literally backs up what I said, I took a class for this exact subject in high school mang, History of Contemporary American Music. And who do you think taught the slaves the christian influences in the Spirituals, and as well as folk music? Work songs

There are Islamic influences as well, since 30% of slaves brought to north america were muslim. esp in the Work songs, that part may infact be all African. But to discount the fact white christian culture forced upon us was nonexistent is just incorrect.

Christianity is nothing more than a spin off of the egyptian religion which became monolithic

 

[fact]

Destiny is such a bytch made fukk face. Annoying mutha fukker, never been wrong in his life, always trying to “educate” everybody because he is the only person on earth with “nuance” and “enlightenment”. His tucking whole community are a bunch of clowns, and nothing good will come from giving him any attention. I wish he would just go the fukk away, and take all of his sycophants with him. He is like the Quentin Tarantino of streaming, just shyt the fukk up, bytch ass.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Peep the rest of that thread. Pat is valid, got co-sign from Wynton Marsalis when he was younger and he taught at college level



And Adam Neely speaks for itself

Destiny went to school for music for 1 semester and now is trying to out debate music conservatory kids who have been listening to avant-garde and jazz since they were in the womb and could write any chord they heard on paper since they were 5

also check out

The Ethan Hein Blog​

he's white with classical background but knowledge of popular music (PHD is music) and would give that destiny troll the work on this topic

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Both those genres have a portion of influence from white christian culture black people converted to. The Fisk Jubilee Singers for example had a number of their songs written by Stephen Foster, a white man, while most of their music from Slavery work songs and older spirituals. As we converted to christianity, we combined those influences with traditional african traditions and created something new, revolutionized music.

African American music is derived from their experiences in the new world, it is not African. It is American.

Stephen Foster didn't write Negro Spirituals for the Jubilee Singers

The only thing negro spirituals and white hymns have in common is the lyrics based around the Christian Bible. The actual music is totally different

white observers been knew this

 

[7evens]

I hate when cacs can’t play jazz because they suck at it, they try to find ways to undermine the music, especially cac classical players. That’s what Destiny is.

@PatBartMusic is a Juilliard grad and as far as the sax, he is HIM. The man is a living breathing jazz saxophone encyclopedia.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

The chick is right: Classical musicians struggle to play Jazz because Jazz by nature is very non-European unless you play Third stream type jazz









and that "back tounge" thing is part of the technique Jazz musicians used to make their wind instruments talk

old thread about it

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/aframs-manipulation-of-wind-instruments-is-next-level.840002/