Big Mel
@bigboss
I seen her on the subway on my to Brooklyn, hello good lookin', is this seat tooken?
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Pusha T: "Big Daddy Kane is better than Rakim"
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
What you do not get is.
Jody Whatley requested for him to he on the record.
Plus, allowed him to be him and not give into selling out who rakim was as an artist.
Which was a pioneering move.
Next,...you are the only one who has skimmed through this thread.
Not knowing whom or what was going on.
Plus you lack any knowledge about the actual content of this thread as well.
Not to mention, you always base your wack perspective on sellout rnb based bullshyt.
While, looking over the culture and relevance of its existence.
Which is why you are known as the global dumbass of this forum.
Art Barr
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
careers & legacies are too different things. thats all im saying.
and you cant deny that kane was a bigger star than rakim. and you cant deny that kane was toe-to-toe with rakim within hip-hop so the huge dump argument doesnt apply.
U need to go back and listen to more Rakim. Because of his impecable flow, Ra could rap over any tempo from 75 bpms to 125. Dude had the slow flow and he murdered 120+ bpms like Lyrics of Fury and Let The Rhythm Hit Em. Because he didn't let the beat dictate his flow he always sounded effortless over any beat. Most people don't even realize that beat from Let The Rhythm Hit Em is 124 bpms cause Rakim is flowing within the beat. He had the best use of syncopation of any EMCEE.
i dont have to go listen to more of anything homeboy. ive been listening to rakim since the '80s and still do.
i do need to clean my statement up tho. i didnt mean that rakim & nas cant flow on any beat. just not on the level that kane & jay can. theyre clearly more versatile than rakim & nas.
yes, "let the rhythm hit em" has been in heavy rotation for months, btw. one of my favorite eric b & rakim joints.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
no chit sherlock. i already know about the jody whatley chit and the significance of it. that doesnt change the fact that you would be singing a different tune if there was a rapper that you didnt care for on there.
you try to hard too play the "im schooling you" role. you havnt said chit in this thread that isnt common knowledge.
and no, YOURE THE ONE that came in here bustin caps at the ceiling, not knowing whats going on. NOT ME......ITS YOU. and i provided proof, which you are still trying to save face for.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
I was speakin on Ja and Luda not being anywhere near Rakim. Kane was right there with Rakim from 88-90.
Kane got a little more airplay because of I Get The Job Done but that did not elevate him above the popularity stratosphere he was on with Rakim. Kane was not satisfied with that level so he sold out to try to attain that LL level. Rakim stayed true to himself and because of that his legacy is looked at a lot more favorably than Kane's.
FreshFromATL
Self Made
[ame=http://youtu.be/zp5EOREHcuY]Kool G Rap;Nas - Fast Life - YouTube[/ame]
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Don't Sweat The Technique could of been a classic if it wasn't for the sequencing of that album. Who's dumb azz idea was it to put a girl record(dope one at that) to start the album?? The title track should of started the album and Know The Ledge should of ended it.
Big Mel
@bigboss
some of the beats were a little too busy and a tad dated. 'what's goin' on?' is an all time Rakim song though. i'm actually just now remembering that Casualties Of War is the song that inspired me to start doing push ups...that just came back to me at this moment.
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
lol at comparing Ja Rule's and Luda's career to Rakim's, neither one of those dudes are close to being mentioned as all time greats and don't deserve to be mentioned in this thread
secondly Rakim was is still is the bigger star than Kane, I just saw the god perform here in Detroit a few months or so ago and guess who opened up for the god? yep you got it, Kane (Slick Rick opened up for them both though), but still Kane took the stage before the god.
Rakim already merked Jay on a non Rakim type beat on the watcher 2, delivery, flow, lyrics you name Ra' bested Jay and needed only a standard 16 to do it. Hell Nas and Jay have collab'd together on different beats and the same thing happened.
DaveyDave
Superstar
@ G Rap on the treadmill in timbs
Mos def. Also I posted that vid so people can see how Kane adapted his rhymes and style to that time of music, with the down south bounce flow and rode that southern beat. He's the mark of a true MC, the debate of Kane vs. Rakim Allah will go on forever, deservingly so, but for people to say Ra is FLAT OUT better is stupid. Kane is my favorite all-time but I will never say he's better than Ra because Ra STILL leaves me like
and Kane STILL leaves me like. I can make an argument for BOTH.Kane went at Ra on Set It Off with the mic solist line so it seems to me Ra showed mercy to Kane by taking his lines off Let The Rhythm Hit Em.
First of all, you show mercy for lesser opponents and Kane damn sure wasn't lesser than Ra when it came to battling
Ra even mentioned that he almost fell for the okey doke and let people gas hm into dissing Kane, IMO it was RA so dodged a bullet because Kane is built for that battle rap, that's how he made his name and that's what is style exuded. Face to face on stage, Kane would win. So kill all of that showing home mercy noise
Rakim Allah
Superstar
First of all, you show mercy for lesser opponents and Kane damn sure wasn't lesser than Ra when it came to battling
Rakim must have a good heart. He saw Kane going down that sell out path and probably wondered Y murk him when he'll just murk himself.
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Yeah Ra REALLY didnt want it that bad. Glad you agreed with me
*turns on Musical Massacre and is still amazed*
