QB Purgatory
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Take away Flacco's last postseason and his numbers are worse than Ryan's. Flacco has benefited greatly from having a very good defense. This year the D was ass and he's now watching the playoffs from his couch. Ryan > Flacco. Flacco got a big arm that's about it. He's not bad, he's just not good.
Romo would be fine on a team with a shut down D, that ran the ball alot. The problem with the Cowboys is they are trying to be like the Manning led Colts...full of all kinds of offensive weapons and throwing the ball all around the yard. If they were to commit to the run and shut teams down on D, Romo is a guy you can work with. I mean Mark Sanchez made it to two straight AFC title games following that same template. Romo is on par with Eli and better than Flacco and those guys were able to get it together for a 4 game run. I think Romo could do the same. Cowboys as an org and from a coaching perspective just make horrible moves. Signing Romo to that deal was one of them.
I agree for the most part but the biggest problem with Dallas is their D. It's fukking terrible. Romo consistently throws for 30TDs 10 INTs a year. That's good enough to prance into the playoffs but the D is ass. If you cut the picks in half, they're still not making the playoffs.
I think all those teams will be fine. 9ers and Seahawks got plug n play defenses. I haven't watched enough of Carolina this year but Rivera is a defensive mastermind. He should have no issue keeping that D top notch.
Bruh as much as i ride with you for the Hawks, i cant let this slide.
Flacco won playoff games because of his D, not anything he did. Last year was the year he finally stepped it up.
You know what Ryan did in that playoff loss against SF? 396 yards, 3 TDs, and 71% completions against the #2 D in the league. Do you not realize how you look criticizing that? Joe Flacco has never put up those numbers in a playoff game!
Raven's D was better this year than last... the offense was so much better than this year...
SteelCitySoldier
TSC Fantasy Football Champion 2016
New contract structure will help stop this. Now that these rooziest aren't getting these crazy contracts teams will move on after the initial years if they don't prove themselves. Owners also have to be ready to have one or two Years of losing or they fInd themselves in the same spot...look at Cutler anf Chitown.
Richard Wright
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This entire argument died the day Joe Flacco beat Colil Kaepernick in a superbowl 
SteelCitySoldier
TSC Fantasy Football Champion 2016
This entire argument died the day Joe Flacco beat Colil Kaepernick in a superbowl
Not true. You will get a "purgatory" QB who does come through but how often does it happen? How many "purgatory" QB's have won SuperBowls? Yea it can happen but it won't happen frequently.
Richard Wright
Living Legend
Well based on how they usually play, lets look at who is in the super bowl, because when you get there u have a shot.
You act like Brees Manning and Rodgers are not 1 for their careers, that brady isnt 0 for his last ten.
If Eli, Big Ben , and Flacco can win Cam Newton, Philip Rivers, and Luck can too.
QB with weak arm like dalton are just not good when it counts. If your qb is a leader with a good arm and you have defense, you have a shot.
You don't need a strong arm. It just can't be weak. Brees doesn't have a strong arm.
Richard Wright
Living Legend
He's a very good QB. A franchise QB. He shown that much.The lack of patience. His "weak" arm has gotten yall a lot of wins.
Broke down the tape and watched both teams often last year. Baltimore had a much better defense this year than in the Super Bowl year. The difference was, no Boldin, no running game while last year they had both clicking. Flacco carried Baltimore last year while Ryan failed the Falcons. Saying defense would make sense if you were talking about the Falcons who had a better all around defense last year than the Ravens.
Flacco is more than just a big arm. He can throw short with touch. He can buy time in the pocket. He can hit any spot on the field in terms of passes. His play doesn't regress in cold weather. In the playoffs, he made plays and made them at the most vital times. He wasn't this hero throwing to open WR's, he created a passing lane by using his mobility which isn't great and made critical plays. That was the difference in the Ravens losing to Denver in Denver to them winning the Super Bowl. His numbers reflected that.
You know I watch the games so simple numbers don't fool me.
His play in the 3rd and most of the 4th QT was horrendous. As soon as SF made halftime adjustments, Ryan went from throwing a TD to Julio and moving the ball to three and outs, when we got first downs it was because our running backs was piling up yards. And majority of his 4th QT yards came from our last offensive possession which ended with a pass to Roddy with Willis defending it. So many things went wrong. They cut off all of his passing options. Forced him to make a play. Did not rush to sack but rushed to move him from his spots. They basically played him like a game manager and he couldn't adjust. Now because of that, they stop paying attention to our running game which was average over 5 yards a carry in the 2nd half.
Once again, that stat shyt works on some but it doesn't with me. I watch the games, I seen what he was doing. I seen how they countered. If it wasn't for our defense, we wouldn't even have had a shot to win in the last 3 minutes of the game. Our defense made cricical stops in the 4th QT as well as forced a fumble as well when SF was at the 1 yard line.
Also, our defense last year was better than Baltimore defense last year. In terms of stats, Atlanta was better. In terms of making key plays, Atlanta defense was better. In both the regular season and playoffs. You guys overrate what Ray Lewis did last year, he was horrible in the playoffs. A complete liability. He was literally there in spirit but not in talent.
Brees has some of the best velocity in the NFL. Especially in the dome. His arm strength isn't good but his velocity is. As for Dalton and Ryan.
