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Velocity is more important in the NFL than arm strength. What's the point of throwing it 68 yards when it's hobbling, inaccurate, and looks like a Marquette King punt.
 

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That ain't even half the league though, so how is it pointless? I also can't believe you lumped Big Ben in the catagorie with the rest of those dudes.


I just hate the narrative around football that its a qb vs qb game and not the ultimate team sport
 

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In the same way, teams latch onto the hope that guys like Matt Schaub are good enough to take an otherwise talented team to the game in February and come out holding the Lombardi Trophy. The problem is that he might actually be what’s holding that otherwise talented team back from getting there with his mediocre play.

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That ain't even half the league though, so how is it pointless? I also can't believe you lumped Big Ben in the catagorie with the rest of those dudes.
Big Ben, Eli, Flacco are QB's who can do it and step up when it matters. Guys who can't are undisciplined guys like Vick, Cutler, and Stafford. Weak arm guys like Matt Ryan and Andy Dalton. Then you have Mr. Average like Schaub and Jason Campbell.
 

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In those 2 runs...that D humbled NE's high powered offense twice. They knocked off the Pack's high powered offence twice. They held Atlanta to 2 points. That D stepped it up in the playoffs. It was unreal how they got their shyt together in the offs. They don't get enough credit.
zero points. D has no control of offense taking a fukking safety, lol
 

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It's amazing that NFL Owners flex their muscle and arrogance everywhere else but on QBs, they get weak, who told Chicago or Detroit to pay 100 million for their QBs, it never made sense before or after the deals were done. NFL teams have all the leverage, it's nothing to have a bad year for an NFL team because in most cases they still sell out (Lions are a prime example), so if they have to go through some bad years to get the right guy, why not do that? I feel most teams don't do enough scouting or are looking at the wrong things when it comes to drafting QBs. There are way too many college football programs to have this meaning average to bad pro QBs, makes no sense.
 

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Best article I've read in a minute....what makes mediocre QB's even harder to get rid of is that coaches are reluctant to let them go. Its not likely you'll get fired after a 9-7 or 10-6 season even if you have no chance of winning it all. So might as well stick with what you got. That's why I have so much respect for Harbaugh over showing Alex Smith the bushes. I doubt there's even 3 other coaches that would've made that move but he had enough balls and brains to see that you'll never win an SB with Smith as QB and make a move on it. Yes QB's like Manning, Brady or Rodgers are rare.....but sticking with a mediocre QB when the rest of your team is SB caliber is the WORST thing an organization can do IMO
you can easily win with alex smith or any average qb, you just need a team around them

thats the whole point, unless you have an elite qb (and only like 3-4 teams do) theres zero point paying qb dozens of millions. better thing is to assemble a team around them and plug them in.

alex smith's teams are like 30-9 over last 3 years not because of alex smith, but because of teams around him. part of it because he wasnt too expensive and was deemed expendable

now if hes about to get 100m from chiefs, this will prevent them in the future from contending.
 

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Well being a fan of the Bears, Qb Purgatory is waaay better than QB Hell. You have no idea how QB hell feels...we were in it so long that I really did not watch the offense, I just put my head down as QB's like Henry Buress launched deep balls & prayed for pass interference. Seeing passing games of 58yds is just... :to:
like Ive said in another thread, this is basically equivalent to 30 year old virgins wifing up the first $10 hoodrat stripper p*ssy they get
 

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I just hate the narrative around football that its a qb vs qb game and not the ultimate team sport

It's not a QB VS QB game but you don't win (95% of the time) without elite QB play. Defense and elite QB'S win rings. My SB pick this year is coming from three NFC because of the defenses, shyt it's Either gonna be SF, Seahawks or Car and the only elite QB I see from those three will be Cam but none of the three are "purgatory", shyt out of three teams left Rivers is the only onrush who would fit that category IMO
 

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It's not a QB VS QB game but you don't win (95% of the time) without elite QB play. Defense and elite QB'S win rings. My SB pick this year is coming from three NFC because of the defenses, shyt it's Either gonna be SF, Seahawks or Car and the only elite QB I see from those three will be Cam but none of the three are "purgatory", shyt out of three teams left Rivers is the only onrush who would fit that category IMO
lol at cam being elite qb
 

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Teams who have success while in QB purgatory are smart when it comes to spending money.

Look at all the teams who paid tier-2 QBs $100 million. Every last one of em sitting at home.
 

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I dont agree with the ultimate basis of the article tho. it says only elite qbs can win. but thats not true. steelers or giants or ravens won mostly with good defenses and decent, but not too often spectacular play of qbs

theres no such thing as qb purgatory. theres such thing as dumb people overpaying a glamour position to make the rest of the team worse

the article advocates exactly what guys like trip say is the best thing- keep playing lottery until you hit an elite qb. fukk that in the ass with a broomstick. build a fukking team, build up that d, build up your run game. THEN plug in a qb. it aint rocket science.
 

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I agree for the most part but the biggest problem with Dallas is their D. It's fukking terrible. Romo consistently throws for 30TDs 10 INTs a year. That's good enough to prance into the playoffs but the D is ass. If you cut the picks in half, they're still not making the playoffs.

That's my point. You give him an elite D and run the ball and he can win. You give him the ball and ask him to carry you and you miss the playoffs every year in a division where 9/10 wins is good enough. It's not the number of picks it's when he throws the picks. He's the type to ginsew knife a defense for 3.5 quarters and then throw a :wtf: :mindblown: pick for no reason. You actually run the ball late in close games or with a big lead and give him a better defense to fall back on and you can avoid situations like that.
 
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