Maye will be fine. The Patriots have and will continue to give him weapons. He will more than likely learn and grow from this postseason and continue improving. He's still got a lot of untapped potential and Vrabel and teh Pats will get it out of him I think.
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I don't disagree but Patriots overachieved all year receiving corp is mid tier C at best, probably the weakest offense to ever make a super bowl and the Patriots staff made zero adjustments..even looking at how they used Trevyon Henderson this year is criminal they never coached to his strengths..he is a home run hitter better suited in space, yet only a few times they ran plays with designed space and when done he flashed greatness breaking 60+yard runs several times only after Stevens got hurt 3/4 into the season on a team with no threats..yet they choose to go back to rhamondre and sub in the only game changer on their team and run up the gut using bland plays with little misdirection. Sometimes winning games you shouldn't will make mid teams mask shytty play, broncos were the same way this year, weakest 1 seed in recent memory and chiefs last year also. eventually those types usually always get exposed I can't pin these games totally on him imo.
People shouldn't forget this was a team that was picking in the top team two years in a row and that's what they looked like when they came up against Seattle. The difference in talent is wild.
Additionally, McDaniels has been exposed yet again as a mid OC and Vrabel was shytting the bed in terms of in game management especially use of timeouts
Patriots were super ahead of schedule, the roster is at best average and so this was always the likely outcome
Maye though should be fine long term, he's shown a lot these past two seasons but more experience and more necessary components will be essential.
Additionally, McDaniels has been exposed yet again as a mid OC and Vrabel was shytting the bed in terms of in game management especially use of timeouts
Patriots were super ahead of schedule, the roster is at best average and so this was always the likely outcome
Maye though should be fine long term, he's shown a lot these past two seasons but more experience and more necessary components will be essential.
To be clear, I'm not a Lamar apologist when it comes to his shortcomings during the playoffs. But the idea he isn't Top 4 during the regular season is ludicrous. The idea Burrow, let alone Drake Maye, are ahead of him is laughable as well. Since you chose to highlight the postseason, L Jack has NEVER looked as bad as Maye did during this postseason run, despite his past failures during the postseason. 2 MVP trophies are tangible proof of his excellent play. But u stan Boston teams so I'd expect nothing less
how old are you? Lamar has never had a “playoff Run” unless you calling wining 1 game and losing the very next game a “playoff run”. He won 3 games in 5 post seasons, Drake Maye won 3 games in one post season.
To be clear, I'm not a Lamar apologist when it comes to his shortcomings during the playoffs. But the idea he isn't Top 4 during the regular season is ludicrous. The idea Burrow, let alone Drake Maye, are ahead of him is laughable as well. Since you chose to highlight the postseason, L Jack has NEVER looked as bad as Maye did during this postseason run, despite his past failures during the postseason. 2 MVP trophies are tangible proof of his excellent play. But u stan Boston teams so I'd expect nothing less
One of his Playoffs “Runs” 2021 he threw 0 touchdowns
And yes I Stan teams that Win. I seen the Red Sox 4 times, Patriots Win 6 times and Celtics win 5 times in my lifetime. I don’t know who the hell you are but I’m willing to bet you Stan teams that won less
Pats defense will keep them solid
Maye probably grow
They need to develop a better running game and thats on josh McDaniel not even trying to run the ball
Maye probably grow
They need to develop a better running game and thats on josh McDaniel not even trying to run the ball
Burrow hasn't made the playoffs in 3 seasons but still is top 4?
Burrow missed half of the season 2 of the last 3 years. He already took his team to a Super Bowl and always had been surrounded by a worse supporting cast.
He’s 5-2 in the playoffs and has played a lot better than Lamar when it matters with the worst O line to ever make the Super Bowl. You put Burrow on the Ravens and they would’ve had a championship.
The Ravens GM would drive Lamar to the airport if Cinci called them for a Burrow-Lamar trade.
So he gets a pass for being injury prone?
Nobody cares about getting to the bowl years ago. You have to produce in the present. He has not made the playoffs in 3 seasons mainly because of his poor play early and they have to dig themselves out of all the early losses.
Worst defense, better offense. He has Chase and Higgins. Who is Lamar throwing to?
He's 0-0 in the playoffs the last 3 seasons. That's all that matters. You can't miss the playoffs, miss games, and not drop in the rankings.
The Ravens don't win shyt with Burrow because the Ravens are built on the running game that Lamar sets up. Take him away and the offense doesn't work. Burrow isn't doing shyt in that offense with no WR's. He also takes a lot of sacks and the Ravens O-line was trying this season. That's not even mentioning that he gets hurt all the time so you can't guarantee anything when he's likely to be missing games.
Lamar missed the playoffs 3 out of the last 5 years. Burrow missed the playoffs 3 out of the last 5 years. Statistically similar in the regular season and better in the playoffs.
I see one quarterback who’s had to carry his franchise and when he’s in the playoffs, it’s hard to beat, I see another one who has had so much support around him, and struggles if he has to carry the load, especially in the playoffs.
Lamar has an MVP in that time frame and should've had a second.
You can't miss the playoffs consistently and not lose ground in the rankings.
Josh Allen fails and fails again but never drops in the rankings either. Lamar the only one who who "has to get it done"
They literally tried to give Maye the MVP award after stacking up numbers against one of the easiest schedules in NFL history. As soon as he got to the playoffs and played against real defenses he looked like Bryce Young.
Patriots played one of the easiest schedules in NFL history: Why it won't discount a Super Bowl title - CBS Sports Patriots played one of the easiest schedules in NFL history: Why it won't discount a Super Bowl title
Patriots played one of the easiest schedules in NFL history: Why it won't discount a Super Bowl title - CBS Sports Patriots played one of the easiest schedules in NFL history: Why it won't discount a Super Bowl title
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At the end of the day these Patriots players are still young with a lot of room for growth. Them being in such a big stage has put a magnifying glass on them
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It's not the one game I'm grading him on, it's the totality of the playoff run. Statistically he played 4 Top 9 defenses, but we also have eyes and are able to contextualize what we saw.
That Chargers defense (#9) was nothing special. They had moments throughout the year and were "good", but that wasn't a special defense.
The Texans (#2) were the best defense in the NFL this year. I'm not indicting him for his performance against a truly elite defense, but he loses that game with any team that can match that defense with competent offense. The Texans have minimal weapons, a mid line, a worse run game, and a bottom tier starter at QB. As it always does, eventually the dam broke, and credit to the Pats on that, but a legit offense ends the Patriots season in Rd2. So my point being, he was not good enough this postseason and it was evident from that game on.
The Broncos (#3) compiled most of their heavyweight stats in the first half of the year, they were not the same defense by the end. They were still good, and even with Josh Allen turning it over 5x, they were in position to lose that game at the end. If you remember 1st half of Pats/Broncos, the Pats had like 22 yards of offense deep into the 2nd quarter. And it's not because the Broncos defense was special.
The Hawks (#1) were a formidable defense for him but he missed layups all night until the 4thQ. Note, I'm not saying he should shoulder the blame, McDaniels should know well enough how to scheme against a zone heavy, blitz heavy defense. Maye is out there though, some of the throws he missed were average NFL throws.
By my count, he played two good defenses, and two elite defenses. His protection is a problem, and not just from the left side as the broadcast kept mentioning, the Hawks were jailbreaking thru the right side, too. They absolutely have to strengthen his line.
But ultimately, my beef is with the coronation he was given thru NFL Media partners the past two months. I thought it was clear as day he's made a leap, from his rookie year, but I also thought people shoulda relaxed on the "he's one of the elite guys" shyt. That's my central point, its okay that he's not one of the elite guys yet, but every year mf's so quick to crown these guys....he may become one of those guys. He isnt one of them yet.