Rap in '13 is lacking something. I cant pinpoint it.

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06 for me was a real,real,really real was low point in regards to hiphop..The two main albums I remember listening to was 40 cal's broken safety and jay's kingdom come :scusthov:...it's no wonder that nas also dropped hhid that year too,which was also a horrible album

07 was great just based off the strength of jay's AG album & UGK's underground kingz album :blessed:
wasn't fishscale an 06 release
 

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Hip-Hop is in a great state right now. I think it depends what region you're in. A person from the West Coast doesn't feel like Hip-Hop is lacking anything because it's thriving over there. They got OF, TDE, Casey Veggies, Dom Kennedy & OPM, HBK and Problem and his crew. Hip-Hop is not missing anything over there. They covered all bases. I'm on the East Coast and I feel like the game is missing a strong movement from the east (mainly NY) like Rocafella or G-Unit.
 

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Took the words out of my mouth. Now I'm only 27 so I can't act like I was around in the 80s or even old enough to understand everything in the early 90s but once I got into the music in the mid 90s, even as an elementary or middle school kid, I could feel the mystique around certain dudes. You felt like they were untouchable and that the images they portrayed, whether right or wrong, were who they were. There was no constant exposure to how dudes were behind the scenes, you only had word of mouth stories and a lot of those stories became urban legend, like with Wu or Pac or BIG. Beat downs at D&D Studios, fights at shows, Wu beating down reporters, Nas and Pac meeting at the MTV awards...stuff happened and you had to assume it was true.

The music is lacking an aggression and isn't as a part of the pop culture zeitgeist as it used to be. Not saying no one cares about Hip Hop but in the late 90s and early 2000s, it was THE biggest genre in music and the coolest because of the aura, mystique and variety you had in the music. Like someone said before, Cash Money sounded like Cash Money, New York MCs sounded like New York MCs and westcoast cats sounded like westcoast cats. There was room for every style to not just exist, but thrive commercially. We have variety now but a lot of the guys we love are relegated to the underground or just dropping mixtapes and doing shows and not being able to truly be "stars." As the music has grown it's become more corporate and when something becomes more corporate, naturally it will soften up and it did.

In many ways also, music in general also always reflects the current culture in society so that may be a big reason. We may have gotten away with it in the late 90s and early 00s but generally speaking groundbreaking music no matter the genre seems to come out when historical or groundbreaking things are happening. And it does not always have to be positive things, it includes negative things. Like the fact that it is no coincidence Hip Hop was at its absolute peak from 84 to about 96 during the height of the drug war with classics after classics. Look at how Motown defined an entire decade with classic after classic during the midst of the Civil Rights Movement. That is not to say we always need something negative to motivate us because after all when the economy crashedwe were still coming out with crappy music in 08 but it just seems today things in general are just bland and we do not know what to use to represent our music.

This goes into play with things like fashion and regurgitating Superhero movies also. The other day VH1 had another one of their 80s specials with about 3 or 4 hours focusing on various parts of the decade and someone at the end made the point that it seems whether it is politics, music, fashion,etc, we seem to still be living the 80s in someway. Like what I mentioned before about regurgitating Superhero movies the past 2 decades in a row because of how big the action hero thing was in the 80s with Rambo, Hoffman in Knightrider, and the Terminator.

Basically back to your point about the critically acclaimed guys being in the underground, it seems in other genres this is the first time in history where most of the greats are not well known where as in the past you had the guys in the mainstream who also combined critically acclaimed work and had something standing out about them to give them variety. Today it seems we have more critically acclaimed Fruitvale Stations that stay below the radar.

There are some things I can think(events) of that could motivate hip hop but I'm wondering if they will be motivated in the wrong way.
 

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06 for me was a real,real,really real was low point in regards to hiphop..The two main albums I remember listening to was 40 cal's broken safety and jay's kingdom come :scusthov:...it's no wonder that nas also dropped hhid that year too,which was also a horrible album

07 was great just based off the strength of jay's AG album & UGK's underground kingz album :blessed:
The album King made by T.I. was pretty good in 06 , Doctors Advocate was straight piff . Busta's album was really good shyt nikka 2006>>>2013
 
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In many ways also, music in general also always reflects the current culture in society so that may be a big reason. We may have gotten away with it in the late 90s and early 00s but generally speaking groundbreaking music no matter the genre seems to come out when historical or groundbreaking things are happening. And it does not always have to be positive things, it includes negative things. Like the fact that it is no coincidence Hip Hop was at its absolute peak from 84 to about 96 during the height of the drug war with classics after classics. Look at how Motown defined an entire decade with classic after classic during the midst of the Civil Rights Movement. That is not to say we always need something negative to motivate us because after all when the economy crashedwe were still coming out with crappy music in 08 but it just seems today things in general are just bland and we do not know what to use to represent our music.

This goes into play with things like fashion and regurgitating Superhero movies also. The other day VH1 had another one of their 80s specials with about 3 or 4 hours focusing on various parts of the decade and someone at the end made the point that it seems whether it is politics, music, fashion,etc, we seem to still be living the 80s in someway. Like what I mentioned before about regurgitating Superhero movies the past 2 decades in a row because of how big the action hero thing was in the 80s with Rambo, Hoffman in Knightrider, and the Terminator.

Basically back to your point about the critically acclaimed guys being in the underground, it seems in other genres this is the first time in history where most of the greats are not well known where as in the past you had the guys in the mainstream who also combined critically acclaimed work and had something standing out about them to give them variety. Today it seems we have more critically acclaimed Fruitvale Stations that stay below the radar.

There are some things I can think(events) of that could motivate hip hop but I'm wondering if they will be motivated in the wrong way.
Interesting indeed.
 

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The album King made by T.I. was pretty good in 06 , Doctors Advocate was straight piff . Busta's album was really good shyt nikka 2006>>>2013

"What you know" is the only track I liked off king, I'm not a fan of game at all, so after his 1st album I couldn't take him serious anymore, and E.L.E was the last busta rhymes album I listened to :manny:
 

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well i agree with the poster who said it depends on what region you're looking at.

cali and the chi are lookin good right now. But these are really the only other areas with a strong organic underground movement. ATL aint going nowhere anytime soon too.:yeshrug:
 

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exactly.

nobody wants to state the obvious.



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JD met them lil niccas at a mall and they banged out hits.

that's it. there was no fictitious background behind them and no push to make them into kings.

He molded their image, wrote their raps, produced their songs, and you being from Philly should know it was right on the heels of what Michael Bivens already started with Another Bad Creation.

'Found them at the mall' and 'was handed their demo' was like the go to move in the 90s how people supposedly got discovered. Vanilla Ice was just 'stumbled upon' too.
 

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He molded their image, wrote their raps, produced their songs, and you being from Philly should know it was right on the heels of what Michael Bivens already started with Another Bad Creation.

'Found them at the mall' and 'was handed their demo' was like the go to move in the 90s how people supposedly got discovered. Vanilla Ice was just 'stumbled upon' too.
Your comparing Vanilla Ice to Kriss Kross :what:
 

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social media fukked alot of it up like was said earlier

when the rapper says a bunch of idiot shyt on twitter or normalizes himself with daily routine pics or posting on message boards, you start to feel like he's no different than your average bum rapping friend from down the block

also, the current times. there's no substance in anything anymore in entertainment which reflects on life. all people care about is the new iphone coming out that has 1 new feature from the $600 one they bought 6 months ago

and everything corporate is too politically correct. rap is corporate. rap sucks

i just listen to 90s rap pretty much. or my own music. new shyt blows

also sampling laws
 
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