I called you an idiot because you said "I must be white" because of where I ranked Ginobili in 08, even though my pic is in my avatar and I am obviously not white. Not to mention saying somebody must be a certain race because of how they rank a certain a player is asinine.
Okay, Khalid Muhammad. It's hilarious how some of y'all get all black militant over fukking sports.
That 10 games stretch was when Parker wasn't in and you got a glimpse of what he could've easily done if he didn't play with two other all star scorers. 26/6/6...and two 40 point games.
Btw Jeff Van Gundy said he was the 2nd best SG that year too, but hey, he's white.
Manu Ginobili hits the game winner! - YouTube
Actual accomplishments; averaging 20 in a finals victory against a tough pretty evenly-matched Pistons team, 2x all NBA, 2 all star, elite SG.
Your contention that he was not an elite SG ever is belied by the fact that he made 2 all-NBA teams.
But the most important thing is simply watching games, which you obviously didn't do. He averaged around 17/4/4 from 05-11 in about 29 mpg. That's 20+/5/5 per 36 minutes.
Looking at his skill set, his performance, and his stats, it's basic logic that he wouldn't easily averaged in the 20's plus about 5 or better in both rebounds and assists if he played on a team that didn't have Parker and Duncan and he logged heavy minutes.
We're talking about prime Ginobili, not :flabbysick: Ginobili. I don't know what that has to do with anything. But prime Ginobili >>>>>>> prime Stephen Jackson and it's not even close.
Ginobili wasn't the 3rd option. He was part of the big 3 with two other multiple all stars. He led the team in scoring in 2010. And he was in a virtual tie with Parker in 2011 (17.5, 17.4) And he scored more than Parker in 2008.
Just admit you didn't watch him play.
Throughout most of his career, Duncan was the 1st option and he and Parker were an alternating 1a and 1b. Duncan was the alpha dog, but there was no clear pecking order between Parker and Ginobili until the last couple of years.
Dude said Michael Redd and Ben fukking Gordon were better than Ginobili.
One-dimensional jumpshooters. Brandon Roy?
Let's break this down. Michael Redd averaged 22.7 in 37.5 mpg. Ginobili averaged 19.5 in only 31 minutes. And Ginobili is obviously the better all around player...better facilitator, can slash has a mid-range game. Redd was basically just a sharpshooter.
Vince Carter 21.3 in 38.9 minutes.
and a jumpshooter at that point in his career.
Ben Gordon isn't even worth addressing.
Brandon Roy averaged LESS points in MORE minutes than Ginobili.
Ginobili shot a higher % than every player you named at 46%.
Ginobili had more assists than every player you named except for Carter and Roy...in 7 less minutes per game.
Ginobili had more steals than every player you named...minutes.
Ginobili had more rebounds than every you named except Carter...in less minutes.
Ginobili had a higher PER than every player you named except Carter.
But hey, he's just a 3rd option who was never better than Stephen Jackson.
You have a bias against the guy that's almost comical.
