Real talk: looking back, most of that def jux/anticon/rhymesayers indie nerd rap was fukking garbage

[Zero]

well actually that was his claim to fame brother....

he was part of the infamous LO LIFE's crew outta brooklyn which was notorious for boosting Polo gear from the department stores back in my day when i lived in the boro...

but make no mistake ...regardless that he wasn't a cac...he did make NERD RAP.....

which is why you never during his prime ..heard him on HOT 97 primetime with Flex or on the major mixapes at the time..Ron G. ...Capri..Wop

you don't have to be white..to make nerd rap.....

thier were commercial artists whom could be considered nerd rap...like Divine Styler and Craig Mack...

godfather don and kool keith are two examples of that......

i think nerd rap is just a misnomer for cats during the mid 90s whom were "retro" with thier stylings and complex delivery by NOT sticking to subjects about CRACK and GATS.......

I mean it's all good.....i don't mind a nerd rap track..as long as it's GOOD

unfortunatly thier was too much bullshyt out there.....especially on college radio and within the vinyl community

 

[desjardins]

even back then those acts were niche, so there were plenty of ppl saying they were wack back THEN
i'll admit i listened to some of that stuff and you're right it was really about being able to name drop cause really the music wasn't all that
i feel that way about these run the jewels albums everybody be hyping, that shyt wack to me
but you right that music aged horribly and as a "movement" it really never went anywhere and those guys will just be forgotten footnotes in the history of hip hop

 

[Zero]

Yea i was in that phase.

I listened to an album i thought was always gon be classic to me. Violent by design by jedi mind tricks

shyt was so trash i almost cried at my stupidity.

Jus allah was my man too...

Idk i used to absolutely love this shyt but i just wasnt feeling ANY of it the otherday when i out it on.

Same thing happened to me when I put on 7L & Esoteric's Dangerous Connection a few weeks ago



I still like this beat and his verses are cool....until you realize that's the extent of what he has to offer. Punchlines and empty threats. Rhyming for the hell of it and not in the best of ways

"The engineer said I'd better relax
'fore I kill you in the booth and leave you dead in your tracks
Put your head in the cracks, my agenda's
takin out fake 5%ers like federal tax"

This dude aint stepping to no 5%er, fake or otherwise


Voice is absolutely awful though and I knew it back then but "real hiphop " kept my dumb ass listening

 

[ZEB WALTON]

Same thing happened to me when I put on 7L & Esoteric's Dangerous Connection a few weeks ago



I still like this beat and his verses are cool....until you realize that's the extent of what he has to offer. Punchlines and empty threats. Rhyming for the hell of it and not in the best of ways

"The engineer said I'd better relax
'fore I kill you in the booth and leave you dead in your tracks
Put your head in the cracks, my agenda's
takin out fake 5%ers like federal tax"

This dude aint stepping to no 5%er, fake or otherwise


Voice is absolutely awful though and I knew it back then but "real hiphop " kept my dumb ass listening

Hurts my heart deck did TWO albums with dude. I need a eso-less version cuz yea beats are cool but this is exactly why i cant listen to vinny paz no more.

I bumped that album a few times too. Wouldnt dare check it today lmao. Good post

 

[Maude]

From 2000-2003 an epic onslaught of nerdy pretentious elitist white rappers came out of the woodwork and managed to take hip-hop into some of it's worst years ever...

I'm talking about
Sage Francis
Dose One
Anticon
Deep Puddle Dynamics
clouddead
Aesop Rock
MC Paul Barman
Hot Karl

And many others.

I tried listening to their stuff again a couple of weeks ago and just could not do it....

aint none of that shyt hip-hop

 

[Pazzy]

Jurassic 5.....



Still hot garbage to this day.

And yeah, I remember the nerd rap Era in the early 2000s. it was safe music. Too safe.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Jurassic 5.....



Still hot garbage to this day.

You have to be out your goddamn mind if you think this track is garbage.

And I wasn't even super big on Jurassic like that. There are plenty of tracks you could have picked besides that one to show you weren't feeling them. But this is one of their best songs.

The premise of the OP post is on point though. I lived in the underground hip-hop world (shyt, still do, lol) from about '97 on. Stayed buying indie 12 inch vinyl, listening to Stretch and Bob, hitting up shows and all that. And I could never fukk with any of that Anticon, Paul Barnum, etc shyt.
Shyt was beyond basura even back then to me.

 

[Magnum P.I.M.P.]

I don’t mess with most of that garbage but Sage has some tracks whether you want to admit it or not. And he’s more knowledgeable about hip hop than the vast majority of folks on this site (any site, really). I know that doesn’t mean his music is good, but he’s got skills regardless. No, I’m not Sage Francis.

 

[Magnum P.I.M.P.]

2wice

 

[TripleAgent]

aint none of that shyt hip-hop

The rest of that list is trash, but I can't cosign Aesop and Paul Barman slander. They can actually rhyme, and do/have worked with some official cats.

Jurassic 5.....



Still hot garbage to this day.

And yeah, I remember the nerd rap Era in the early 2000s. it was safe music. Too safe.

You bugging. J5 is Hip-Hop, the problem was they were TOO Hip-Hop and not corny/gimmicky enough for mainstream. 5 guys rapping and doing routines with a DJ is about as Hip-Hop as a music grouo can get. They probably would have been gods in the 80s.

 

[OHSNAP!]

at least no one posts about that garbage

but u got nikkas on here stanning g unit and fabolous and shyt in the year 2016

Repped

 

[DaveyDave]

Hurts my heart deck did TWO albums with dude. I need a eso-less version cuz yea beats are cool but this is exactly why i cant listen to vinny paz no more.

I bumped that album a few times too. Wouldnt dare check it today lmao. Good post

That is what has kept me from really giving those Czarface albums a good listen, i've never been a fan of 7L & Esoteric

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

That whole wave mixed with those dudes like Necro and mr hyde rapping on some Hannibal lecter shyt had hip hop completely lost

 

[blizzard man]

oxycontin pt 2 still bangs

 

[Mowgli]

We was sayin that back then....white boys didn't listen till eminem came