Real talk: looking back, most of that def jux/anticon/rhymesayers indie nerd rap was fukking garbage

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    It was two different 'underground hip-hops' in the 2000s

    one side was most of the corny motherfukkas listed in this thread most of whom were a damn joke and underground for a reason!

    the other side was dope cats Akir, DOOM, immortal Tech, The STRONGHOLD, MF GRIMM, M.I.C. Hasan Salaam, Count bass D, Edan ect.
     
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    Yea i was in that phase.

    I listened to an album i thought was always gon be classic to me. Violent by design by jedi mind tricks

    shyt was so trash i almost cried at my stupidity.

    Jus allah was my man too...

    Idk i used to absolutely love this shyt but i just wasnt feeling ANY of it the otherday when i out it on.
     
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    Yeah violent by design was supposed to be a classic to me too. I think you put me on to them:( but the second 3rd lp....
     
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    Yea i think i did.

    The good ol days...
     
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    haven't heard that name in years. I used to bump that "Prayer of a Sinner" joint a lot.

    so I checked Prayer of a Sinner on Youtube, and it doesn't sound as good as I thought it was.

    :mjlol: I remember when whiteboys on forums used to pretend like this was the greatest thing ever recorded.

    Glad you saw the light bruh :salute:
     
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    It was SOOOO bad breh. Soooo bad.

    I was a fan of the beats most but i put on my fav joints and they sounded trash to me
     
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    Funny. The Paul Barman album that came out on Wordsound in 2000 was actually somewhat bearable.
     
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    Omg! I will not accept the Jedi Mind Tricks slander...lol. Violent By Design still goes hard. But I can see why people dont like it.
     
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    I have Heavenly Divine on vinyl and that still sounds good. Can't speak on the whole album.
     
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    Damn I wish I woulda been up on this thread back when it first popped off a year ago. I was deep in the indie/underground hip-hop scene. I agree with the general premise of this thread. Alot of that nerd CAC shyt that dropped back then aged horribly. It was self-righteous, pretentious, off-beat bullshyt. :scusthov: It also was low-key :mjpls: with its holier than thou attitude like their brand of hip-hip was too advanced for the average, typical hip-hop consumer.

    HOWEVER make no mistake about it, that era was NOT the worst for hip-hop. Its actually the second best era to me behind the Golden 90's era. That underground/indie period created so much dope and slept on hip-hop with artists like....
    - All Natural + Family Tree
    - Binary Star
    - Vakil
    - Molemen
    - Mr. Complex
    - J.U.I.C.E.
    - Five Deez
    - Lone Catalysts
    - Scienz Of Life
    - Mass Influence
    - The Arsonists
    - Jigmatas
    - Black Attack
    - Basement Khemists
    - Old World Disorder
    - 427
    - Self-Scientific
    - Micronauts
    - Laster
    - C-Rayz Walz
    - Oktober
    - Sub-Con
    - Mike Zoot

    I could go on and on and on and on literally.... but you get the idea. Alot this shyt age gracefully and some sounds dated but still bangs. If I get some serious free time I'm going to make a dedicated, on-going thread about the best music to come from this creative period of hip-hop.
     
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    Maaan! Iont know who none of those nikkas are lol. I musta missed this era..I didn't have internet back then..I guess you had to be looking for this shyt...
     
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    They fell off after visions of ghandhi.

    Servants in heaven...kings in hell was trash.
    Only a few good joints.

    When Jus Allah left the group it all went downhill.
     
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    You really had to
    Or go to the record store back then.
    The appeal of it was cause it was completely off of the MTV radar.
     
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    I used to post on Hiphopinfinity.com they would ban people for dissing thier favorite underground nerd rapper :mjlol:

    :snoop:
     
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    You da homie...



    ... but I probably couldn't listen to any of those albums anymore without :huhldup:

    Only shyt I could probably fux with today that was/is considered underground (to varying degrees):

    Canibal Ox - Cold Vein (personal classic)
    J-Zone's shyt
    J-Live ... of course... he literally made the Illmatic of underground shyt (personal classic)
    J-treds (so many fukkin' J's lol)
    Natural Elements
    Some of Apani B's shyt
    Benefit's first shyt :manny:
    Jean Grae's first shyt (personal classic)
    Some of the Rawkus projects of course
    Last Emperor
    Juggaknots - Clear Blue Skies... (every underground/indie heads magnum opus)
    Punch -n- Words
    Wordsworth early solos
    Brother Ali's Shadows (personal classic)









    ...but it's levels and sub genres to this underground shyt from the mid 90s to early 2000s... don't forget at one point, BlackMoon (and those similar... Buck even broke down the true meaning of "backpacker before :mjpls: corrupted the term) were considered "backpackers" and "borderline" underground (meaning non-mainstream) with a street edge (shyt I usually fukked with) but sometimes had a major label backing... sometimes... then you had the nerd shyt... then had the "incense" shyt...

    the boundaries often weren't really clear... it's like someone could be indie, but not considered "theoretically underground" according to purists... then fans started getting on some "holier than thou" shyt... :snoop:

    Maaaaan this is some shyt that could get me excommunicated from the rap/hiphop community but I can't even listen to Funcrusher Plus hardly at ALL anymore. :snoop:

    And I used to write for Industry mags about Indie/Underground rap :snoop:

    that era was needed, tho... and it produced some dope, creative music. And I'm appreciative of its place in hip-hop... I still think a similar movement needs to reemerge now... if not, rap is gonna morph into some unrecognizable hybrid and take on a different name.

    In a sense, I think there is a "new underground" movement happening, it's just in the form of mixtapes. However, I think more variety is still needed.





    there was another thread along the lines of this one that was really good, too.
     
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