Retired NbA player goes on anti-analytics rant , say nerds were jealous of real athletes

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Except the someone that clown Eddie is talking about is 6’4” and played varsity HS which is more than most posters here probably did going by the level of basketball discussion here:skip:
I would bet quite a few of these nerds probably bounced a ball at least in high school and some in college on various levels. thats not the actual point. the point is they are not 7 footers(mostly), they are not 6'9+. They have no idea about that post world. NON. but they do have an idea about shooting jumpers because everyone can shoot a jumper and that is something that white guys are known for. why? because on average white guys are not nearly as athletic as others( i said on average). an athletic isnt just about jumping high. quickness. so they think what would level the playing field? hmmmm, lets maket he game so its all about guard play mostly, dribble shoot, catch shoot, dribble shoot, catch shoot.

every guy thats 5'6 to 6'4 can do this . no ultra athleticism necessary. just have a team run some form of a nice team defense/zone and get ready to fast break and chuck 3's. the only reason that this era is even allowed to pull off this much chucking is because of the offensive players no longer being guarded to tough by the defenders thanks to softer rules to protect ball handlers and shooters(dont get me wrong i cant stand when people intentionally step underneath you). and due to the fact that its hard to ISO people in todays zone defense/ team defense nba.
this is why i have always given steph props, and klay. two shooters who play defense. they would work in any era due to this very fact. some of these other euro guys would get torched, some of these shooting bruhs that dont play much d could not hide behind a nice team d scheme. they would get the numbers dropped on their heads to the point of the coach yanking them.

You remember how we did boykins form the clippers? he was a baller, but he was too short to play defense, similar to I.T. but he could score. eventually they realized how much of a defensive liability he was and that was that. Why is lou williams looking like an allstar? sure he has grown a bit. but thats not why. its the rule changes. if the rules wouldve remained as they were when Lou will came in. lou will would still be a journeyman getting 12 points per(not bad), shooting an awful fg% and not getting to the ft line like he does now.
Right now I'm shook of Lue, straight scared. because he's basically james harden light. he aint got no defense, but that offense + the rules = super lue will.

Trae Y is a beast on offense and has super quick hands. but lets be clear. a different era would have him looking super suspect because guys could make his life even harder on offense, and everyone would think twice about picking him up knowing he cant physically guard anyone. hes just to small of a guy in stature.
 

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Sometimes, the analytics guys step out of bounds, but for the most part, they(the good ones) are accurate... and the good ones watch game tape and use analytics to put player data output and the tendencies into perspective.

I believe in the law of averages... for example....

Lebron's ppg, during his entire career, always has increased from the regular season into the playoffs, but his turnovers increase and he tends to miss very important FT's too. These are trends that analytics guys and people on this board that pay enough attention to the games catch.

I say this as a former athlete.
LeBron regular season
3.4 to
.735 ft

LeBron playoffs
3.5 to
.743 ft
 

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This is cute. Always like it when fools are open about their ignorance. Makes deciding who to engage with that much easier.

Just know that the other side of this debate isn't choosing "analytics over ball."


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Analytics shouldnt be applied to stars. Let them do their thing. Everybody else adhere to the stats.
Analytics maximizes role players and other pieces around the stars
But the stars should be able to do what makes them stars in the first place
If it's post ups then post ups
If it's the midrange then shoot midrange jumpers
Analytics take common sense out of the game
 
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To be successful, the game still has to be played inside out, and you still have to be able to score from the midrange even when your offence is predicated on threes. Iso threes, and the swing it around the arc type threes aren’t a successful formula, which is why Houston keeps losing every playoffs. You can win a game or two that way if shooters are hot but the nature of role players is that they’re not able to sustain that output for an entire series...which is why they’re role players and not stars. This puts more pressure on the stars to produce and well, Harden fades in game 6 and 7 of the second round every year because of this. This is why nobody cares about Houston as a contender and why Harden’s 39ppg mean nothing to anyone right now.

It’s not rocket science.
Exactly it's all about balance

Best product would be the fast pace of today with all the 3s flying but also not forgetting about fundamentals such as the post game, midrange, etc.
 

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We need a perfect balance and that’s what a lot of these teams don’t have

6 - 8 years ago, the league had perfect balance. You had teams who were defensive oriented, those who were built around post play, run-n-gun, and etc, which led to great matchups because each team had their own style. Now, it just comes down mostly to who hits 15+ 3s in the game because both teams shooting at least 30 of em. To most, it feels like the game is more predicated on luck and overall team talent rather than different styles winning out.
 
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