Schefters saying that Brady's suspension will be completely overturned

[William F. Russell]

Wait so if he gets 2 games he's not a cheater ? he's a cheater unless the whole suspension is overturned

He's not a cheater until it's proven that he ordered the balls to be doctored.

The league's investigation just concluded that it's more probable than not that he doctored the balls. The purpose of the investigation was to determine whether the league could discipline Brady, not if he actually ordered the balls to be doctored.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The NFLPA will fight the league to get an independent arbitrator and will likely succeed. If that happens, I fully expect the suspension to get overturned.

If and when this suspension is overturned, Goodell needs to resign.

roger appoints that arbitrator breh

that's the normal appeal process... fight all they want.. the same NFLPA signed the damn paperwork giving him that power... that's why so many people laugh at how fukked they get every time.. casue they end up signing whatever the nfl wants at the end of the day....

only baseball has a true players union that gets them everything they want

 

[William F. Russell]

roger appoints that arbitrator breh

that's the normal appeal process... fight all they want.. the same NFLPA signed the damn paperwork giving him that power... that's why so many people laugh at how fukked they get every time.. casue they end up signing whatever the nfl wants at the end of the day....

only baseball has a true players union that gets them everything they want

Goodell will select an independent arbitrator like he did in the Ray Rice situation. The NFLPA has input as to who serves as the arbitrator.

There's no way Goodell selects a biased/favorable arbitrator and expects the NFLPA to not appeal to a federal judge.

 

[Brady-Carter]

brady ain't getting off... all those lawyers... pretend that the nfl doesn't appoint its own arbitrator AND still have final say on it

they can take it to court, real court... but then the nfl is collective bargained so they'd probably lose that too

brady's got lawyers... like kraft and brady combined can fukk with the nfls lawyers and money

If will go to court, just like the AD's case. Even tho these are different cases it will likely be a similar timeline. Kessler also handled AD's case

December 2nd-4th: Arbitration takes place and NFLPA highlights four issues; 1) NFL can't retroactively apply policies; 2) NFL prevented Peterson from presenting his side; 3) Can the league order psychiatric counseling under the CBA?; 4) Can Peterson being in the Exempt list count as a form of discipline under the CBA?

Henderson rejects all four issues and supports the Commissioner's original rulings.

December 15th: NFLPA files to vacate the arbitration award from Henderson on the grounds that the rulings violate or overreach the CBA, that retroactive application isn't allowed, and that Henderson wasn't partial. (Editor's Note: I would assume that Henderson's ability to be a partial arbitrator will be a major factor in Brady's appeals process)

LINK


Plus what has been really underreported, probably should have it's own thread. But the NFL just took a major L on the issue of Goodell being sole arbitrator.

This happen May 5.

When it comes to employment disputes involving individuals teams, the NFL traditionally stacks the deck in its favor, forcing disgruntled employees to agree to arbitration — with the Commissioner of the league presiding. Last week, the Missouri Supreme Court delivered what could become a fatal blow to the league’s obsession with allowing a non-lawyer to make legal decisions that could be influenced by business interests unrelated to what the law requires.

PFT

Who knows what will happen. But I would bet on Brady not serving 4 games, wether it's 0 or 2 who knows.

 

[23Barrettcity]

He's not a cheater until it's proven that he ordered the balls to be doctored.

The league's investigation just concluded that it's more probable than not that he doctored the balls. The purpose of the investigation was to determine whether the league could discipline Brady, not if he actually ordered the balls to be doctored.

Ok again if he still has a suspension what does that mean ? Your the one saying how he's going to get off . And wells already said he used the wording probable because that's all you need to prove in noncriminal situations not because he was guessing . If he's punished then Brady's a cheater stop trying to use lawyer talk

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

If will go to court, just like the AD's case. Even tho these are different cases it will likely be a similar timeline. Kessler also handled AD's case



LINK


Plus what has been really underreported, probably should have it's own thread. But the NFL just took a major L on the issue of Goodell being sole arbitrator.

This happen May 5.



PFT

Who knows what will happen. But I would bet on Brady not serving 4 games, wether it's 0 or 2 who knows.

Goodell will select an independent arbitrator like he did in the Ray Rice situation. The NFLPA has input as to who serves as the arbitrator.

There's no way Goodell selects a biased/favorable arbitrator and expects the NFLPA to not appeal to a federal judge.

i'm not really disagreeing with y'all... i'm just going off history... google harold henderson.. it's goodell's go to guy cause he basically sucks goodell's dikk.. he picks him most of the time, and most of the time, he upholds goodell's choices

now after that, you can take it to a Fed judge.. the judge in MOST cases says "sorry fam... but you already agreed to this in the collective bargaining agreement, so I can't help you"

recently they've found a judge, can't remember his name, that is very nfl player friendly.. and they try to file the appeals in his court




so basically we'll see.. but its not as easy or cut and dry... it's gonna be a long time, a lot of millions thrown around, and a few cases... all the time brady is gonna be front page, being dragged through the mud

it's crazy tho when you think about it... these dudes, players, owners, commish... supposed to be working together.. but they all about to go to war this summer!!

 

[Brady-Carter]

i'm not really disagreeing with y'all... i'm just going off history... google harold henderson.. it's goodell's go to guy cause he basically sucks goodell's dikk.. he picks him most of the time, and most of the time, he upholds goodell's choices

now after that, you can take it to a Fed judge.. the judge in MOST cases says "sorry fam... but you already agreed to this in the collective bargaining agreement, so I can't help you"

recently they've found a judge, can't remember his name, that is very nfl player friendly.. and they try to file the appeals in his court




so basically we'll see.. but its not as easy or cut and dry... it's gonna be a long time, a lot of millions thrown around, and a few cases... all the time brady is gonna be front page, being dragged through the mud

it's crazy tho when you think about it... these dudes, players, owners, commish... supposed to be working together.. but they all about to go to war this summer!!

What blows my mind every time shyt like this comes up. How the hell did the NFLPA give in to letting Goodell be sole arbitrator.

Only thing I know for sure, is lawyers are going to be eating this summer that is for sure.

 

[William F. Russell]

Ok again if he still has a suspension what does that mean ? Your the one saying how he's going to get off . And wells already said he used the wording probable because that's all you need to prove in noncriminal situations not because he was guessing . If he's punished then Brady's a cheater stop trying to use lawyer talk

The suspension means that there was supposedly enough evidence for the commissioner to levy a punishment. That's it.

 

[Rosecrans]

Probably Roger McMahon's plan all along to suspend Brady and blame the overturning of the suspension on lawyers...:crackheadfoh:

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

What blows my mind every time shyt like this comes up. How the hell did the NFLPA give in to letting Goodell be sole arbitrator.

Only thing I know for sure, is lawyers are going to be eating this summer that is for sure.

they complained about it for years... he has too much power

owners threatened a lock out...





"sorry masa, i needs my money, you can rule over us no problem boss"

 

[kingofnyc]

nikkas is really rooting for white privilege to prevail

and what takes the cake is donald ' is Kenyan' trump has sided with brady, kraft & da pats


i would advise a black pats fan ... keep that shyt to yourself

 

[William F. Russell]

and what takes the cake is donald ' is Kenyan' trump has sided with brady, kraft & da pats


i would advise a black pats fan ... keep that shyt to yourself

And I'd advise you to stop talking about things you know nothing of.

 

[bdkane]

And I'd advise you to stop talking about things you know nothing of.

I think I will take Lester Munson's legal expertise over yours, with all due respect breh. If Brady goes to court to sue league he has to turn over his communication devices. Just sayin.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

Every year the NFL has a huge story in the off season and or during the season. shyts crazy.

 

[William F. Russell]

I think I will take Lester Munson's legal expertise over yours, with all due respect breh. If Brady goes to court to sue league he has to turn over his communication devices. Just sayin.

NO HE DOESN'T. An arbitrator would merely be reviewing the league's punishment under the arbitrary and capricious standard. And if there's (somehow) an appeal of the arbitrator's decision to federal court, the court would merely be reviewing the arbitrator's decision under the reasonableness standard.

The league has no more chances to prove Brady's guilt. It's stuck with its findings in the Wells report as justification for its decision to suspend Brady for 4 games.

Stop talking about the law when you clearly know nothing about it.