The league can't prove he cheated, hence the imminent appeal. And he still has his 4 rings.
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Schefters saying that Brady's suspension will be completely overturned
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The league can't prove he cheated, hence the imminent appeal. And he still has his 4 rings.
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It does not. Now let's look at why the leaguer
no one wants to read homer racist trash. Within the parameters needed brady is guilty . Let me ask you this if Brady doesn't get a COMPLETE exoneration will you come in here and publicly admit he's a scumbag cheater ?? Not a reduction but only complete exoneration other than that he's a cheater
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ns-bradys-refusal-to-provide-texts-and-email/
"Perhaps the most glaring problem for Patriots quarterback Tom Brady in the Wells report comes not from anything Brady said but from the things he didn’t say. Specifically, his decision to refuse to provide his text messages and emails constitutes a failure to cooperate with an investigation and, per NFL rules, conduct detrimental to the league."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/08/gostkowski-refused-to-cooperate-too/
For workplace investigations, the employer makes the rules. And when the employer expects cooperation, anything other than significant sanctions for failure to cooperate will invite others to refuse to cooperate.
During the various significant NFL investigations in recent years, cooperation has been consistent, and automatic. The Saints cooperated when the NFL was investigating the bounty case. The Ravens cooperated when the NFL was investigating the Ray Rice elevator video. The Dolphins cooperated when the NFL was investigating the bullying scandal — with the exception of trainer Kevin O’Neill, who expressed hostility to the investigation and later was fired.
Per multiple sources, Ravens employees automatically and without hesitation surrendered their cell phones for forensic examination that entailed a specific search for certain recipients and phrases. The procedure balanced the needs of the investigation with individual privacy rights.
Here, multiple individuals chose to extend their privacy rights so broadly that it interfered with their obligation to cooperate with their employer. Separate from whatever the Patriots did or didn’t do to the footballs, the failure to cooperate requires punishment, or others will do the same thing in the future.
If he's innocent what does he have to hide.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ns-bradys-refusal-to-provide-texts-and-email/
"Perhaps the most glaring problem for Patriots quarterback Tom Brady in the Wells report comes not from anything Brady said but from the things he didn’t say. Specifically, his decision to refuse to provide his text messages and emails constitutes a failure to cooperate with an investigation and, per NFL rules, conduct detrimental to the league."
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/08/gostkowski-refused-to-cooperate-too/
For workplace investigations, the employer makes the rules. And when the employer expects cooperation, anything other than significant sanctions for failure to cooperate will invite others to refuse to cooperate.
During the various significant NFL investigations in recent years, cooperation has been consistent, and automatic. The Saints cooperated when the NFL was investigating the bounty case. The Ravens cooperated when the NFL was investigating the Ray Rice elevator video. The Dolphins cooperated when the NFL was investigating the bullying scandal — with the exception of trainer Kevin O’Neill, who expressed hostility to the investigation and later was fired.
Per multiple sources, Ravens employees automatically and without hesitation surrendered their cell phones for forensic examination that entailed a specific search for certain recipients and phrases. The procedure balanced the needs of the investigation with individual privacy rights.
Here, multiple individuals chose to extend their privacy rights so broadly that it interfered with their obligation to cooperate with their employer. Separate from whatever the Patriots did or didn’t do to the footballs, the failure to cooperate requires punishment, or others will do the same thing in the future.
If he's innocent what does he have to hide.
Again, he had no obligation to turn over his phone. The CBA's language makes this very clear. And it's illegal for an employer to take punitive action against employees for refusing to turn over their personal phones and emaild to employers. Moreover, why would he turn over his phone to an entity that's notorious for leaking discreet details of players' personal lives?
nope wells gave his lawyer permission to turn over the texts only and he didn't even need the phone . Yet Brady refused . Also the conduct detrimental to the league is more complicated than your making it
Now you're just being willfully ignorant. Wells never asked him to completely turn over his phone.
As I posted earlier.
http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2015/05/ted_wells_offered_to_let_tom_b.html
"And I want to be crystal clear," Wells continued.
"I told Mr. Brady and his agents that I was willing not to take possession of his phone. I said, 'I don't want to see any private information.' I said, 'You keep the phone. You're the agent. Mr. (Don) Yee, you can look at the phone. You give me documents that are responsive to this investigation and I will take your word that you are giving me what's responsive. And they still refused.
The league can't prove he cheated, hence the imminent appeal. And he still has his 4 rings.
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I'm not mad but I can give you a list of people who are:
Brady
His Agent
Kraft
Bruschi
The New England Patriots at large
and all their lame ass fans.
I don't need stone cold 100% proof to know this dude cheated, evidence we have is enough for me.
1. For the last time, Brady had no obligation to turn over his phone and it's illegal for the league to punish him for not doing so. Wells giving Brady's lawyer permission to do so is irrelevant.
2. The "conduct detrimental to the league" standard is broad and vague. And the onus will be on Goodell to prove how BRADY engaged in conduct detrimental to the league based on the findings in the Wells' report. In short, Goodell has a lot of 'splaining to do pertaining to his decision to suspend Brady based on the report.
You're making this analysis more complicated than necessary.
That doesn't matter, the league had no legal expectation to see the contents of Brady's personal phone. Stop playing semantics.
Thankfully what you think is ultimately irrelevant.
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The league can't prove he cheated, hence the imminent appeal. And he still has his 4 rings.
Since deflate gate started, how many times have you been wrong, honestly?
Same with you but you continue to post your opinion, why is that?
Goodell could give two fukks about how SuperCoolP feels about the situation.
I haven't been wrong in arguing that the league has insufficient evidence to punish Brady.
Because I'm arguing with the law and facts. I'm breaking down all of your arguments under the same applicable legal standards of the appeal. You're arguing off emotion because you want Brady to be guilty.
I'll admit he's a cheater when there's sufficient proof to uphold the league's 4-game suspension.