Simone Biles withdraws from team final competition due to mental issues

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Ehhh a celebrity/public figure has more access to mental help therapy than the average person. That type of help isn't cheap even if you have insurance.

It's more so that if it is accepted by media personalities the regular folk will follow. The stigma still generates more stories than necessary. See Paul George, Kevin Love, Naomi, etc.

It is unfortunately something that people are reactive towards than proactive in finding help. People will dismiss mental anguish when they see someone not winning. Claim they're making excuses, like in this very thread.
 

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Americans lookin real weak right now in sports folding under pressure. How you get injured after a tweet. #1 sports move of a vet. Pretend to be hurt when ya bout ta lose. Shout out to kawhi Durant and lebron

But they also had it out for her soon as she arrived in Tokyo talmbout her routine was too difficult, this the Olympics! The fukk Dat mean
No way a healthy Simone biles is losing, there are individual events also!
 

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I was watching the event she was in the other day, and she looked like she was on the verge of tears. I just thought it was the pressure of being a young g.o.a.t.

She was definitely off breh, she was making a lot of mistakes, but she was still leading. Could be stress and pressure, could be she just didn't want to be there :yeshrug:
 

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one of my exes was a high level gymnast; the mental/psychological fukkery they put these girls through from the time they're toddlers is insane.

it seems like Simone was still strong/well composed through it all, but I don't blame her for saying fukk this, it's just not worth it. the team put all their hopes on her back, the judges devalue her moves and drag her down, the public gives her shyt, and all that for what? she's already established herself as the best ever. fukk that medal:manny:

Undercover cacs showing their true hues up in here.
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they always do in threads like these:mjpls:
 

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It's more so that if it is accepted by media personalities the regular folk will follow. The stigma still generates more stories than necessary. See Paul George, Kevin Love, Naomi, etc.

It is unfortunately something that people are reactive towards than proactive in finding help. People will dismiss mental anguish when they see someone not winning. Claim they're making excuses, like in this very thread.

That's a disingenuous take to lump those athletes together seeing as Naomi Osaka got more sympathy for her mental health issues in the press than say someone like PG and Kevin Love. Even The Coli is hypocritical with their stances when it comes to mental health as they treated Osaka's issues with kid gloves, but will turn around and crack jokes around PG13 and Kevin Love's mental health issues.

The reason I speak up about Osaka is that she's perfectly fine with showing up on TV and doing interviews and such, but is scared to touch the mic and talk when she takes her losses. You don't want to talk to the press, but you're perfectly fine with accepting ESPY awards in front of a large group of people or doing magazine covers and interviews. Her success in tennis has made her into the popular athlete that she is now, so it's disingenuous and unfair not to answer their questions when they've helped promote her and become who she is now.

Before you say the media isn't needed for athletes, that's a lie and even you know that.
 

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She was definitely off breh, she was making a lot of mistakes, but she was still leading. Could be stress and pressure, could be she just didn't want to be there :yeshrug:

Then don't compete as all she did was take someone else's spot who would have loved the opportunity to do so and compete for their home country.
 
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Curious why it hit her NOW. If you were hesitant, you'd think this would have popped up through all the training, Olympic trials, qualifiers etc.

Getting to the All-Around final and NOW having issues..........do we think it's really mental, or do we think it's a situation where she felt like she was going to lose and didn't want to lose?

Crazy thing is that she was #1 in the qualifier round on Sunday. She was totally off her game AND STILL was #1 in points. Her routines are so much harder than anyone else but her execution is about the same level. Best comparison is John Doe squats 300 lbs with good (but not perfect) form while Jimmy Doe squats 500 lbs with the same level of form. Neither has "perfect" form but it's decent/pretty good and Jimmy is lifting a lot more weight.

This Olympics has been kinda rough for the U.S.

I think we've been relying on the females way too much. Our women have generally had more opportunities than women in most parts of the world at a wide variety of sports. This has allowed us to use our superior females to inflate our medal counts against over-matched countries. The men do "ok" here and there but the females in gymnastics and swimming have really pulled us ahead in recent Olympics.

This year, the rest of the world is getting more competitive with the female side. It's possible that we just don't like Asian Olympic games as much because of the time difference. Japan is doing better than usual since they're the host country. Simone probably should have retired tbh. She's GOAT but I think she's put too much pressure on herself.
 

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Curious why it hit her NOW. If you were hesitant, you'd think this would have popped up through all the training, Olympic trials, qualifiers etc.

Getting to the All-Around final and NOW having issues..........do we think it's really mental, or do we think it's a situation where she felt like she was going to lose and didn't want to lose?

Crazy thing is that she was #1 in the qualifier round on Sunday. She was totally off her game AND STILL was #1 in points. Her routines are so much harder than anyone else but her execution is about the same level. Best comparison is John Doe squats 300 lbs with good (but not perfect) form while Jimmy Doe squats 500 lbs with the same level of form. Neither has "perfect" form but it's decent/pretty good and Jimmy is lifting a lot more weight.

This Olympics has been kinda rough for the U.S.

I think we've been relying on the females way too much. Our women have generally had more opportunities than women in most parts of the world at a wide variety of sports. This has allowed us to use our superior females to inflate our medal counts against over-matched countries. The men do "ok" here and there but the females in gymnastics and swimming have really pulled us ahead in recent Olympics.

This year, the rest of the world is getting more competitive with the female side. It's possible that we just don't like Asian Olympic games as much because of the time difference. Japan is doing better than usual since they're the host country. Simone probably should have retired tbh. She's GOAT but I think she's put too much pressure on herself.

Sometimes the obvious answer is the correct one........

It's becoming a situation like in basketball right now where other countries are starting to catch up with us and we can't over-match inferior countries like we used to. It's not a given that we will dominate the Olympics and certain sports there like it has been the norm for a while now.
 

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brehs are really taking this mental illness reason to heart
the real reason is that she was the only one who was excelling in the games all the other gymnasts are not at her level
she would be carrying the whole team and that's way too much pressure for one person

Nah breh, they lost her one event into the competition and the remaining gymnasts stepped up to win silver.

So they finished runner-up without the best gymnast in the world. They may not be at her level, but let's be honest, NO ONE IN THE WORLD is at her level.


Is society just getting more accepting of mental issues as a reason or are there more mental issues plaguing today’s athletes?

Yes. To elaborate on the latter... most of them believe themselves to be the best in the world at what they do. In Simone's case, she is legitimately the best in the world. To the point where routines/passes, etc. are literally named after her because she's the only one capable of executing them. The pressue to always be on and always be on your P's and Q's can take a toll on any person.
 
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That's a disingenuous take to lump those athletes together seeing as Naomi Osaka got more sympathy for her mental health issues in the press than say someone like PG and Kevin Love. Even The Coli is hypocritical with their stances when it comes to mental health as they treated Osaka's issues with kid gloves, but will turn around and crack jokes around PG13 and Kevin Love's mental health issues.

The reason I speak up about Osaka is that she's perfectly fine with showing up on TV and doing interviews and such, but is scared to touch the mic and talk when she takes her losses. You don't want to talk to the press, but you're perfectly fine with accepting ESPY awards in front of a large group of people or doing magazine covers and interviews. Her success in tennis has made her into the popular athlete that she is now, so it's disingenuous and unfair not to answer their questions when they've helped promote her and become who she is now.

Before you say the media isn't needed for athletes, that's a lie and even you know that.


Agreed. In fairness though, if this had been Serena Williams........she would have gotten ROASTED way more then Naomi Osaka. Even with female athletes, we play favorites. Naomi isn't threatening GOAT status so people are going to be more sympathetic to her, even though it is kinda hypocritical of her to wanna show her face for the good shyt but hide from the bad shyt.

Men will get more heat because of the $$$$.

Simone is cute and likable, so she might not catch as much heat (maybe). Plus the sexual abuse stuff from the Team USA doctor will give her some leeway. Serena would never get the same leeway. Naomi is getting leeway but she'll get some heat too if she keeps winning and doing interviews/photo shoots after wins but slinks off during losses.
 
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