So it begins- Wendy's To Switch To Self Ordering and Automation To Avoid $15/hr Wage hike
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Bless't
Living the dream
That's another thing many don't take into account when you make min wage. You get benefits from the government, whether a daycare subsidy, food stamps, government assistance in terms of housing. Tax benefits , different tax bracket.
There are surgeons who do surgery miles away
Robotic dental hygienists are coming
Robotic dental hygienists are coming
So damn random.
LOL. They're willing to automate the cashier and spend that money to then renovate all these locations instead of a pay raise.
10 THOUSAND DOLLAR SYSTEM. THAT MONEY SAVED IS RECOVERED IN LESS THAN A YEAR.
LOSS CONTROL SAVINGS ADDED IN AND WENDY'S GONNA BE SITTING PRETTY WHILE THE TWO PEOPLE LEFT WORKING WILL BE BUSTING THEIR ASSES FOR THAT 15 BUCKS.
Heres the issue...if the wages of the employee who earns minimum wage sets the tone of the economy then I'd agree. But that's not the case...the economy is adjusted by those who make far more. So if an investment banker is willing to pay 125million for a decent loft in ny, that sets the tone of what square footage goes for in Manhattan thereby setting the real estate economic parameters by default. Everyone else has to now manage in an economy set by the wealthy guy...he set the tone of what u pay for your (maybe) smaller home. This works (generally) the same way for every other facet of our economy. So as wealth increases and the buying dollar can fetch more the economy adjusts and tics higher to compensate ...restaurant owners, if not held accountable, would probably not adjust there pay scales to ensure their employees can swim in the constantly rising economic waters, because inherently paying them less would futher increase the buoyancy of the owner in his or hers own economic waters. They need to be held accountable or they'd be paying at 1970's rates
. I do agree that we need to emphasize the need for more skilled employees...but no one talks about how on the job training (remember the term OJT, it existed once)was done away with for the enlargement of the education industry. Engineers at the behest of corporate owners have done away with what used to be blue collar factory jobs for their desire to add profits( a side effect of the race to globalization, which failed). So the least we can do is ensure that those workers who have been phased out by automation and had to take a job at Wendy's can still make enough money to buy lunch where they're employed
That's another thing many don't take into account when you make min wage. You get benefits from the government, whether a daycare subsidy, food stamps, government assistance in terms of housing. Tax benefits , different tax bracket.
That shyt alone isn't keeping those people afloat. In fact, you could argue those benefits would be better served as "stimulus" packages so the people who woulduse them best have access to them. The benefits argument is how places like Walmart and Target (worked there for almost 3 years) will pass out pamphlets on how
to apply in the HR department.
Handouts don't solve the problems of lack of equity and opportunity.
Misanthrope
None of the above '16
How many rote employees does Kroger need to run a store? How many managers does that same Kroger need? Getting skills is a great idea for individuals, but once it's done in bulk you're likely to have the same situation that you have now with Liberal Arts graduates, mainly a over-supply of the market leading to a race to the bottom for wages.
That's another thing many don't take into account when you make min wage. You get benefits from the government, whether a daycare subsidy, food stamps, government assistance in terms of housing. Tax benefits , different tax bracket.
I thought that was the point of these minimum wage hikes in the first place. Uncle Sam's broke too, and tired of giving food stamps/section 8/everything else to dudes working 40 hours a week. Food stamps cut off at an exact number [130% of poverty line] and this was schemed out to try to put workers right at that line. But the govt. didn't think these corporations were ready to cut everyone's throat the way they're going to.
Food stamp cut off for a family of 4: $2,584/month
$15/hour * 40 hours/week * 52 weeks a year [cause you know you're not getting vacation] / 12 months = $2,600/month
Heres the issue...if the wages of the employee who earns minimum wage sets the tone of the economy then I'd agree. But that's not the case...the economy is adjusted by those who make far more. So if an investment banker is willing to pay 125million for a decent loft in ny, that sets the tone of what square footage goes for in Manhattan thereby setting the real estate economic parameters by default. Everyone else has to now manage in an economy set by the wealthy guy...he set the tone of what u pay for your (maybe) smaller home. This works (generally) the same way for every other facet of our economy. So as wealth increases and the buying dollar can fetch more the economy adjusts and tics higher to compensate ...restaurant owners, if not held accountable, would probably not adjust there pay scales to ensure their employees can swim in the constantly rising economic waters, because inherently paying them less would futher increase the buoyancy of the owner in his or hers own economic waters. They need to be held accountable or they'd be paying at 1970's rates
Thing is what OJT is needed for front line fast food that is not already provided? The only thing a fast food company should provide outside of that Imo is Tuition Reimbursement to allow front line workers to get the skills needed to take on corporate positions. Many fast food spots already do it, the issue at hand though is they will be slick and say it is for full time only, and typically everyone employed is part time and they make them work the max part time hours, to avoid having to provide these extra benefits. IMO a company should offer tuition reimbursement programs of some sort to all employees and utilize Graduate Development programs for these recent graduates to transition them from front line to corporate. But guess what, nobody has to do anything at the end of the day.
see my last post, and once again all you guys want to do is put a band aid on Americas problem opposed to addressing the big issue of there not being any jobs nor any time of system to promote/create paths to entrepreneurship
jwonder
Superstar
It's fukked up but these types of jobs are just to start out. Should motivate someone to do better unless they have a disability
Don't forget the catch 22: Need experience to apply. No starter jobs, no experience, and more entry level work(ENTRY LEVEL
) across industriesare asking for experience. How does entry level work need that? There is some intellectual dishonesty going on in this thread.
Misanthrope
None of the above '16
I don't have any faith in the American government or people to address the big issue. It would require a fundamental change in government, how people live, how people work and buy goods, everything. I don't even know how to get from here to we were economically in the pre-Reagan fukkery days, much less where we need to be going now with the double threat of Oligarchy and Automation.
Sometimes, a band-aid's all you got.
What you are suggesting for positive change has NEVER been in the DNA of this country though...from the beginning through the Industrial Age in this country blue collar jobs have been the glue that held this place together...COLLEGE WAS NEVER an expectation or a requirement of most employees to earn a living. The U.S. had never had a populous that had more white collar than blue collar workers...many aren't cut for college(not everyone likes it) and there aren't that many white collar jobs in existence anyway. Corporations used to teach employees complex skills to operate and be productive on there job sites, they stopped and gave that responsibility to the enormity of vocational colleges u see today...basically more room for failure in favor for cost savings. Every industry is solely profit focused...that is the problem here. But u gotta pay to play. Tuition reimbursement is cool, but college has never been for majority of Americans, but the educational industry has made itself a necessity. We already have more college graduates than jobs available anyway. We need real solutions or the minority that has in the future will be hunted by the majority who has little. It always goes that way...better to just pay the min.wage and adjust accordingly.