So Puff Diddy isnt a record producer either....we knew?

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Dude seriously wants to oversee and control the whole process.

Premier said he used to have meetings with Puff and they would go over ideas for beats. Premier played him "Kick in the Door" and Puff said it was wack and that Primo was losing his touch, lol. So he didn't want B.I.G. to f*ck with that beat, at all. But Primo gave it to B.I.G. anyway. B.I.G. gets the beat and he loves it, so Primo goes back to Puff and says that B.I.G. loves the beat and is using it. He recorded the song and it came out crazy. Then Puff backtracked and told Premier that he never said the beat was wack.



But on the album, it's also why he's not credited as a co-producer on the song. Because Premier did that with B.I.G. when Puff wasn't around. Puff didn't even want that beat on the album.

“You losing your touch P, you gotta come party with me … get back on track“ -

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

FINALLY it's starting to come out officially & via law suits that Puff didn't actually do anything in the studio and forced that exec producer / producer credit for a royalties cut + to give himself some musical pedigree.

Have seen one story so far.

We all knew right?

He is like the production version of Milli Vanilli....

Please don't tell me it took you almost 30 fukin years to figure this shyt out

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

Basically similar to Beyonce's song writing credits on all those hits songs guys like Neyo/The Dream wrote .

what Beyonce does is use her celebrity status to get publishing on songs she had nothing to do with. It's one of those things like, "I'll cover your song and you can make millions on half of the record, or you can keep it and make nothing". Elvis tried it with Dolly Parton on "I'll always love you". He told her he'd cover it for half the publishing but she turned him down.. 2 decades later she made millions off of it from Whitney covering it. It's a dirty game. Half of millions is millions. 100% of nothing is nothing.

 

[Elim Garak]

He's basically DJ Khaled but better. Everyone knows this.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

People still don’t know what producing is in 2023-24?

It's way more than just making beats. If Puff has a stack of records playing in the studio and hears a section on a Al Green record that he thinks would be dope to sample, and he tells Nashiem to chop it and throw a reverse kick on it along with a low end bassline, and a snare with mad reverb. And then throws a concept at B.I.G. for what he can talk about on the record, and this record turns into "My Downfall", then that makes Puff a co-producer. If he's in the studio telling you how to sing sh*t and where to put certain hooks and which lyrics to keep and which to cut, that's production.

But if you're making beats at home and uploading them online, and some dude you don’t know comes an cops a couple tracks from your online store, and goes and makes a mixtape with them, and you don’t even know dude is using your sh*t, you didn't produce those records. You just made the beats. Production is about being involved with the creation of the actual record. Your input and involvement is what it's about. If you didn't have anything to do with the creation of the song, you ain't a producer on it.

I definitely know what producing it. It's bringing the record to life. Telling someone to turn up a snare or adding a "yeah yeah" to a record isn't the need for a co-production credit. I've been in the studio and gave advice like, "change the last bar and mute that one for emphasis on the bar" , but that doesn't make me a co producer on the track. Puff is a goddamn crook

 

[010101]

by definition he's a producer

there are musicians that produce music

but most producers are not musicians if you really look at it

most of the big billionaire record business cats are primarily on the business side

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[010101]

ARTISTS ARE FOOD..........*

 

[Big Boss]

of course he's not producer

 

[Yehuda]

Puff Diddy.

 

[Roid Jones]

It's an open secret, he's a style maker. while he has an ear for beats and hit songs The Hitmen were the ones actually creating the tracks

 

[Da King]

This been known

Can’t tell you how many posters over the years would tell me about how he had a magical touch and he was the genius overseer of everything in the studio

 

[LiveFromLondon]

I mean this has been known for eons but has he actually ever claimed to be the one making the beats in traditional sense

 

[LiveFromLondon]

Basically similar to Beyonce's song writing credits on all those hits songs guys like Neyo/The Dream wrote .

Egregious, chick actually claimed she produced those Destiny's Child albums

 

[JustCKing]

I definitely know what producing it. It's bringing the record to life. Telling someone to turn up a snare or adding a "yeah yeah" to a record isn't the need for a co-production credit. I've been in the studio and gave advice like, "change the last bar and mute that one for emphasis on the bar" , but that doesn't make me a co producer on the track. Puff is a goddamn crook

It makes you a co-producer whether you accepted the role of one or not. You altered the song from what it would've been had you not given your input.

 

[JustCKing]

Egregious, chick actually claimed she produced those Destiny's Child albums

That's because she may have. There's far more to producing a song than making a beat and other genres is a completely different ball game. You could have someone write a song, produce the music, play instruments, but if I arranged vocals, that's a production credit. Some people separate the two and some don't.