So What Exactly is Wrong with "Social Justice"?

[DEAD7]

Nothing is wrong with social justice and equality

Can you define these terms please?

 

[Alpha Male]

I suspect you don't WANT to see how it's indicative of a larger crisis. There's a wealth of information available, historical record and current research. Sounds like you're either ignorant of or dismissive of this. At any rate, not sure there's much to be gained by engaging further but, I'll ask you this:

Surely we can agree that women were historically oppressed in this country no?
If so when exactly do you think this oppression ceased to exist?

Historically? Of course. They used not even be able to vote.

Tell me how women are oppressed in 2017.

 

[the cac mamba]

i dont see anyone calling for racial segregation in the news or legislation. but obviously there are white people who still believe in that shyt behind closed doors

again....things i thought were rhetorical

 

[ghostwriterx]

Historically? Of course. They used not even be able to vote.

Tell me how women are oppressed in 2017.

"If so when exactly do you think this oppression ceased to exist?"

Mind you women couldn't even get a credit card without a man's co-sign until the 70s.

 

[mastermind]

A lot of anti-SJW rhetoric started out as a reaction by the internet "manosphere" to the perceived excesses of modern feminism. That's why it's so readily adoptable by black men on this website, who already dislike women.

fact

 

[ghostwriterx]

i dont see anyone calling for racial segregation in the news or legislation. but obviously there are white people who still believe in that shyt behind closed doors

again....things i thought were rhetorical

Everything's "rhetorical" huh? We just "elected" a President who ran on a platform promising to ban Muslims from the country. White male supremacy is and has always been a "mainstream" idea.

 

[Alpha Male]

"If so when exactly do you think this oppression ceased to exist?"

Mind you women couldn't even get a credit card without a man's co-sign until the 70s.

2017.

Facts please, not emotion.

 

[the cac mamba]

Everything's "rhetorical" huh? We just "elected" a President who ran on a platform promising to ban Muslims from the country. White male supremacy is and has always been a "mainstream" idea.

well thanks for defining what the fukk this thread was talking about, because i still have no idea

of course white supremacy is mainstream in this racist fukkin country

 

[mastermind]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/24/us/california-rape-brother/index.html

this is unreal.

This is why any dude who says "i cant stand feminism" should be forced to not have sex with women anymore.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

ok. well i think this post addressed it pretty well, actually


you can criticize the lena dunham clowns while also believing in 'social justice' no?

and going off your definitions, i think i only draw it at trannies. and its not even the trannies themselves, they can do what they want. but the fact that they think they can tell people to "accept the fact" that they're women, or else you're "transphobic"

remember that tranny 15 year old with a tv show who was like "how come boys dont like me "? he doesnt get social justice

But that's bullshyt because you don't have to be doing ANY of those things to be called a "Social Justice Warrior".


I think you know me well enough by now. I don't play identity politics, I'm not pro-trans, I don't support victim mentality, I devote my life to justice issues and don't give a shyt about trending topics, I don't do ineffective rallies and marches, and my life is built around effective responses in the Struggle.


But because I give a shyt about social justice at all, because I fight for the Struggle at all, I've been called a "SJW" dozens of times, usually by White Conservatives but occasionally by Brown ones too.

You can whine about the fringe dorks, every movement has them. But 90% of the people using the "SJW" slur are using it against anyone who actually gives a shyt about social justice issues at all, regardless of whether they're effective or ineffective, devoted or casuals.

 

[Mowgli]

White privilege is obviously a mentality that goes against social justice since justice would be a privilege reserved only for whites in the rabid mind of a white supremacist.

 

[the cac mamba]

But that's bullshyt because you don't have to be doing ANY of those things to be called a "Social Justice Warrior".


I think you know me well enough by now. I don't play identity politics, I'm not pro-trans, I don't support victim mentality, I devote my life to justice issues and don't give a shyt about trending topics, I don't do ineffective rallies and marches, and my life is built around effective responses in the Struggle.


But because I give a shyt about social justice at all, because I fight for the Struggle at all, I've been called a "SJW" dozens of times, usually by White Conservatives but occasionally by Brown ones too.

You can whine about the fringe dorks, every movement has them. But 90% of the people using the "SJW" slur are using it against anyone who actually gives a shyt about social justice issues at all, regardless of whether they're effective or ineffective, devoted or casuals.

well i dont disagree with any of this, so if you're talking about the sean hannity type of dudes who would call someone that as snide 'term', those dudes are pieces of shyt

which brings me back to why i thought this shyt was just rhetorical. surely there arent too many people on here who disagree with what i just said

 

[choc_cardigan]

What was your opinion on national Women's day?

Do you believe women are oppressed in this country?

Do you believe white males are oppressed?

 

[Alpha Male]

Do you believe white males are oppressed?

Not at all.

 

[Tyrantus]

-Identity politics diluting attention to legitimate issues (catcalling vs police brutality vs transexual support vs black men are trash feminist = BLM)

-SJW being mainly frauds and most "twitter backlash" situations are just people commenting on a trending topic but not being truly invested in the issue (Flint water crisis)

-People who chime and demand things with no realistic plans or intention to execute. In otherwords SJW tend to be people who complain just to complain and don't have any intent to see through the stuff they harp on. (Privilege arguments, demand handouts that can't be reasonably made)


-As a man, I don't respect the reinforced victim mentalities of these groups. Way too much group hugs and apologists way too little fixing.

-SJW are mainly moral grandstanders and don't care nor are invested in actual politics

- SJW are only invested in things that they are triggered by or are opposed to but don't really stand for anything on their own. Or what they do stand for is nebulous concepts. "I support gay rights" "what right are you advocating for?" "........" Basically these people exist to chastise and nothing else.

- Many SJW topics are rooted in pusedoscience and bs social concepts that are good for commenting on online in one off tweets/posts but can't logically unpack. (cultural appropriation, privilege)

- Continuing the above, the reactive ADD nature of how SJW move makes controlled narratives easier. (Ferguson/BLM, NYC catcalling video, fake outrage)

-Outside of calling out discrimination, the labeling is corny. When people can't logically refute an opposing arguement the dodge it by summing it up with a label. Consider it the mainstream white american version of coli's "W-w-well you're a c00n!"

Be honest. Are you black? You have these "anti-sjw" talking points down to a T.