Some People Call This Producing, I Call It Finessing

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Breh, they don't LET Puff do anything. Ya'll would be surprised who does what in a studio and how credits are broken down. Artists have gotten production credits for finding samples, turning down drums, adjusting elements in a beat. A lot of you just have no idea on how music is made.

It is clear you are a casual because:

1) You clearly do not understand how credits work

2) You do not know how production works

Who has gotten a production credit for turning down drums besides Bluff:mjlol:
 

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Breh, they don't LET Puff do anything. Ya'll would be surprised who does what in a studio and how credits are broken down. Artists have gotten production credits for finding samples, turning down drums, adjusting elements in a beat. A lot of you just have no idea on how music is made.

It is clear you are a casual because:

1) You clearly do not understand how credits work

2) You do not know how production works

Right!

I've never seen so many people who are not producers or beatmakers with expert opinions on what a producer is or isn't :mjlol:

And no one's downplaying the role of the people who physically work the machines and make the beats... but there also shouldn't be any downplaying of the people who add input sound-wise, knowing how it should be arranged, what should be added, taken away, louder or lower... are nikkas really actin like that doesn't play a role in the music we hear??
 

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Who has gotten a production credit for turning down drums besides Bluff:mjlol:

Many have and The Booth really needs to have it's own Music Production, Piblishing section for dummies so people are educated on this information before they start posting.

Read the information below:

But as I mentioned above, we all know how a certain hook, riff, or groove can make the magic happen in a song. And if your producer or beatmaker added something to your finished track that might later be viewed as absolutely essential to someone’s impression of that composition, it’s not unreasonable to share a portion of that song’s publishing with them. This is a super common consideration in genres like hip-hop and EDM.

Should My Producer Get Publishing and Songwriting Credit?

^^^ excerpt from an article for independent musicians. It breaks down how production and publishing credits work.
 

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Right!

I've never seen so many people who are not producers or beatmakers with expert opinions on what a producer is or isn't :mjlol:

And no one's downplaying the role of the people who physically work the machines and make the beats... but there also shouldn't be any downplaying of the people who add input sound-wise, knowing how it should be arranged, what should be added, taken away, louder or lower... are nikkas really actin like that doesn't play a role in the music we hear??

Theres beatmakers and programmers out there that have no skills in making a record. They are just lost......a lot of people think that records come all packaged and done, most beat makers will chop stuff up and have no vision or direction for a record. They wouldn't get no where with it without a producer's vision. Some of these dudes beats sound like shyt and everyone knew Puff had the midas touch in the 90s, everything that he touched went platinum. He had that badboy formula that everyone wanted. But it was only his vision and his direction that can make that happen. Not the hitmen by themselves. Look post 2000s did any of the hitmen do anything big without Puff? None of them did anything major on their own.
 

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‘I want to snatch them out their fukking sleep’

Equals production credit :russ:

Finessing the Harlem way:takedat:
 

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For albums yes! But for also individual tracks on records hes a great producer, like Jay-Z said its probably the thing that Puff does best is producing records.


I agree. Alll the way around Puff completely gets it
 

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‘I want to snatch them out their fukking sleep’

Equals production credit :russ:

Finessing the Harlem way:takedat:

Post the credits because I don't see a production credit for Puff on this track. He got credits as a writer.

This is classic Booth taking a thread title and running with it. People don't even know the song, yet have all this insight in what happened.
 

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Post the credits because I don't see a production credit for Puff on this track. He got credits as a writer.

This is classic Booth taking a thread title and running with it. People don't even know the song, yet have all this insight in what happened.

true
 

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Crazy to see history being revised right before my eyes. It was common knowledge in the 90d amongst heads that Puff was a credit stealing fraud. Now on this board of supposed hip hop heads he’s a creative genius :russ:
 

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Crazy to see history being revised right before my eyes. It was common knowledge in the 90d amongst heads that Puff was a credit stealing fraud. Now on this board of supposed hip hop heads he’s a creative genius :russ:

it’s actually the opposite, anyone that’s an 80a baby or a teen or young adult knows that Puff was instrumental in producing records for uptown (Jodeci and Mary From 91-93) and then badboy from 94 on....

it’s only people that are ignorant and don’t know or are biased haters that think otherwise
 

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it’s actually the opposite, anyone that’s an 80a baby or a teen or young adult knows that Puff was instrumental in producing records for uptown (Jodeci and Mary From 91-93) and then badboy from 94 on....

it’s only people that are ignorant and don’t know or are biased haters that think otherwise
I was born in 1980. I’m not talking about R&B. The sentiment was what I said in my post. Now if the sentiment was wrong or ignorant, that’s one thing, but that was the sentiment at the time. You can’t tell me it wasn’t. I lived through it.
 

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That's true of other genres, but in hip hop the role of the producer has been synonmous with the beat maker. If you ain't involved in making the beat in hip hop I'm sorry but I can't call you a producer.

I'm sorry but this ain't about Quincy Jones shyt. Hip Hop at its fundementals is a ELECTRONIC form of music. The beat maker is king. I'm getting sick of people continuing to dismiss the role of the beat maker. On a musical level...the beat maker is still king in hip hop. I don't give a fukk. Dre, Puffy, Kanye...they can add some icing on top...but at the end of the day hip hop is a different beast to more traditional pop/rock/r&b forms of music. It is a beat driven form of music. Traditional producing can still play a role but not to the level of other forms of music.
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